attorney paul fishman in newark, new jersey." what's different now, what we're reporting tonight is new testimony that could indicate prosecutors are gathering new or addition kinds of information pursuant to this formal investigation. it could also mean the jury will hear from additional witnesses, indeed, it is not usual to only hear from one in an investigation like this. now, who is drewniak? how is a close aide and forecasted ally of governor christie. he was his longtime press secretary and interestingly, he previously worked for him at the u.s. attorney's office. of course, that's the very u.s. attorney's office where this federal investigation is proceeding. the reason his testimony today is potentially significant is because, remember, a grand jury is a pretty serious federal proceeding. witnesses must testify without a lawyer and they cannot plead the fifth in that setting. we could see many more developments growing out of today's news. joining us to help unpack it is former federal prosecutor, current criminal defense

>> i think at this point what paul fishman is looking for are criminal indictments.his job at this point, is to present to the grand jury the evidence that he believes may indicate that crimes were committed not just at bridgegate in fort lee, who knows where else this will lead. wildstein is perfectly positioned, and his lawyer's letter made it clear that wildstein can give up a whole lot of information. at least that was the implication. >> dan french, former u.s. attorney, guide us through this. scott's report says today that "esquire" has learned from sources close to the investigation that david wildstein, the former port authority operative who helped plan and execute the great fort lee situation, is now cooperating with paul fishman. dan, if true, what are the possible scenarios that are going on in the room between david wildstein and the u.s. attorney? >> you know, lawrence, first good evening. if david wildstein is looking for immunity and he's looking for immunity both from the federal government and the state government, the federal government can't confe

the first name to keep track of is paul fishman.n who has the job governor christie used to have. he's the united states attorney for new jersey. his office has been looking into his predecessor's administration these past four months. we hadn't been hearing about what's going on in fishman's office, at least not until this week. it's when the legal news website reported that david wildstein, the fomer port authority official in the thick of the lane closures, that he recently spent days talking with investigators. no one can say just yet what that means whether he's cooperating with the investigation as part of a deal that's unclear. his attorney has made it clear that wildstein would talk for immunity. the investigation does seem to be active especially when you add this report about david wildstein to this revelation that someone testified in newark last friday. name number two to keep track of is charlie mckenna, governor christie's chief council. he secretly met with fishman's office back in january. he knows the attorney's off

attorney, paul fishman, is is in the process of looking at that. >> paul fishman, i think i referred to him as patrick fishman before. thank you for the correction, mary. hunter, the ryan lizza piece today is one of a string of stories that have traced the roots of chris christie's political career. you've done reporting on this and talked about his behavior and aks in high school forward and what emerges from myriad sources, from the atlantic to your publication to the new yorker is a man who has wielded the cudgel of power unsparingly. and also does not have aai lee janss that last beyond their political expiration date. i thought one of the most damning apartments of ryan's story out today is former governor tom kean in in ways responsible for christie's emergence on the national political scene. kriszie visited him as a high schooler and was a longtime ally. ultimately, christie attempted to engineer a coup against his son for political expedience which lost him unsurprisingly the favor of his mentors who then says on the record in this piece today, christie doesn't always try to

and paul fishman has been quiet about the scope of what he's looking at.think sdny, their public corruption unit opened up a case because they felt like they needed to know. especially with samson and his conflicts. exactly what was going on. because they do have jurisdiction. and some of it sounded quite serious. >> lisa brennan, thank you very much for helping us understand this. lisa is a contributor to main justice, which broke three successive scoops on this story in a very quick amount of time. thank you very much for being here. >> you're welcome, rachel. >> appreciate it. we'll be right back. you think you take off all your make-up before bed. but do you really? [ female announcer ] neutrogena® makeup remover erases 99% of your most stubborn makeup with one towelette. can your makeup remover do that? [ female announcer ] neutrogena® makeup remover. [ female announcer ] we eased your back pain, you turned up the fun. tylenol® provides strong pain relief while being gentle on your stomach. but for everything we do, we know you do so much more. tyleno

and paul fishman has been quiet about the scope of what he's looking at.o i think sdny, their public corruption unit opened up a case because they felt like they needed to know. especially with samson and his conflicts. exactly what was going on. because they do have jurisdiction. and some of it sounded quite serious. >> lisa brennan, thank you very much for helping us understand this. lisa is a contributor to main justice, which broke three successive scoops on this story in a very quick amount of time. thank you very much for being here. >> you're welcome, rachel. >> appreciate it. we'll be right back. the day we rescued riley was a truly amazing day. he was a matted mess in a small cage. so that was our first task, was getting him to wellness. without angie's list, i don't know if we could have found all the services we needed for our riley. from contractors and doctors to dog sitters and landscapers, you can find it all on angie's list. we found riley at the shelter, and found everything he needed at angie's list. join today at angieslist.com (agent) i

and paul fishman has been quiet about the scope of what he's looking at.their public corruption unit opened up a case because they felt like they needed to know. especially with samson and his conflicts. exactly what was going on. because they do have jurisdiction. and some of it sounded quite serious. >> lisa brennan, thank you very much for helping us understand this. lisa is a contributor to main justice, which broke three successive scoops on this story in a very quick amount of time. thank you very much for being here. >> you're welcome, rachel. >> appreciate it. we'll be right back. there's a saying around here, you stand behind what you say. around here you don't make excuses. you make commitments. and when you can't live up to them, you own up, and make it right. some people think the kind of accountability that thrives on so many streets in this country has gone missing in the places where it's needed most. but i know you'll still find it when you know where to look. so i'm going pro. [ male announcer ] new crest tartar protection rinse. the only

the latest fears stem from reports that paul fishman, the lead prosecutor recently doubled the number of investigators on the case. furthermore, sources close to the case confirmed that david wildstephen is: wild stephen was reported by chris christie, and informed the governor about the lane closures at a 9/11 memorial event, days after they ended, long before the governor said he learnt about them. federal prosecutors are bringing witnesses before a grand jury who will decide if there should we charges against anybody. in a grand jury judges are not present and: >> a grand jury serves as an accuse atory function, and does not determine innocent or guilt but: >> at a news conference 10 days ago chris christie asserted that he was not involved in the planning or execution of the lane clorges, and expressed confidence that the case would not hurt him legally or politically. if i was running for re-election tomorrow, maybe it would be of moment. if i was running for something else in the future, do you know what i will care about - the ones in the few days before the election, not now.

attorney paul fishman, the lead prosecutor, recently doubled the number of investigators on the case. from sources closer to the investigation, it found that david wild stephen: >> he was appointed by chris christie, and informed the governor about the lane closures. that's days after the lane closures ended, but before the governor says he learnt about them. federal prosecutors are bringing witnesses before a grand jury who will decide whether there will be charges against anybody. a new phase in the investigation, in a grand zury: >> a grand jury serves an accuse atory foundation, they do not determine innocent or guilt but: >> at a news conference 10 days ago chris christie asserted that he was not involved in the execution of the land closures and stressed that the case will not hurt him legally or politically. >> if i was running for election form, it would be of moment. i already ran, and got 61% of the vote. >> in the future, do you know what will be cared about? not the ones now, but in the few days before the election. >> the iowa caucuses are 21 months away. if you look ot o

she's been interviewed by the united states attorney paul fishman.nd fbi agents have examined records and spoken with others in hoboken about her accusation take the interview with guadagno. the memo said she told the lawyers that zimmer had requested to meet with her outside the shop right and zimmer connected sandy aid and the stalled development. she said the development and sandy aid were not related and if zimmer claimed the mayor was connecting the two, the mayor would be wrong and lieutenant governor would have to say so. so no threats from guadagno. no connecting sandy money to development projects. nothing like zimmer is electing. that's what guadagno told zimmer's team. but then this is from a woman named luciana dimaggio. she was the only person in an suv with guadagno immediately after her encounter with zimmer. she said she hadn't heard the exchange, but she had watched it and it had been, quote, tense. and she said when guadagno got into the suv she said something like if mayor zimmer didn't play ball then there's not much we can do. di

is it being led by paul fishman? new jersey? is there any other corollary action that's going to move it along? >> right now we're looking at a serious development. you described it as an escalation. but suddenly there was a question, i think. if you look how it's proceeded so far, right now the legislative committee has been looking at the bridgegate stuff and the u.s. attorney has had dominion over the hoboken related allegations. now we see that those two elements are being brought together in this grand jury investigation. that's a serious -- that's a serious sign that, you know, there had been a question about whether or not a federal crime could have been committed with what happened at the gwb, and now it's clear that people in the u.s. attorney's office in newark think that there was. and that they have jurisdiction over that. and they're willing to bring in one of the most public supporters of the governor, one of the most public members of his staff to talk to them. that's a serious development. that's a big deal. >> l

when paul fishman sends word. you need to back off here. back off on this witness. back off on this material. going to get in the way of my investigation potentially. we have basically arrived at the point now with bridgette kelly and bill steppian. still talking to people. circumstances under which you might see bill steppian testify before the committee. only way they would testify before the committee itch the u.s. attorney has, completed, you know, every, gotten everything out of them. the u.s. attorney will get everything out of steppian, kelly, only people you will see testify are people i think in e some way, the u.s. attorney is okay with appearing there. it is, shows you, this is something the ball game is in newark in terms of getting to the bottom of this. >> dan french. now that the judge has clearly put this completely in the u.s. attorney any court here. what would you expect, as former u.s. attorney yourself. you are basically handed control of this kind of investigation. with the two witnesses who are pleading the fifth amendment, to the state legisl

attorney in new jersey right now, paul fishman. more so than we ever knew before, and more so than we knew even at the beginning of the day today. watch this space. >>> the name of the governor of ohio is john kasich. he's been there since he got elected in 2010, and he's not that popular. if you ask ohioans whether they like their governor, 42% do say they like him, but 30% say their opinion of him is unfavorable. now, obviously, he's doing better than some folks with numbers like that, but he's not in great shape for a guy who has to run for re-election this year. one of the ways you can tell he's not in great shape is that in that same poll, this incumbent governor, john kasich, is leading his democratic challenger by only five points. and that is despite the fact that freaking 70% of ohio voters don't even know who his democratic challenger. they don't know who the person is who's running against john kasich. 70% of people in ohio have no freaking idea who ed fitzgerald is. they do not know enough about him to form an opinion o

because i can assure you, paul fishman and his cadre of talented senior federal prosecutors are going to want to construct a solid foundation and not a foundation that's ultimately constructed on quick sand. the more people they know who are credible and believable and who are in a place who could learn what happened are going to be essential. i also think it's ironic that the report that we're talking about today came from a publication called "main justice." those are going to be the folks at min justice who will have to sign off on high level indictments if they arise out of this investigation. joan, the fact that we got the report you referred to, the randy mistro report that the state of new jersey taxpayers paid for and that was supposed to close the door. now here we are, right back to the federal government talking to people. does this now reopen this whole view of chris christie, who seemed to be trying to get back on stride and get like this was behind him? >> go out to las vegas and act like he's a serious contender for president? look, he must think we're stupid. yes, we p

attorney's office, paul fishman for new jersey it's an opaque office, very hard to look into to see what'soing on. for people who cover new jersey and the u.s. attorney there, that's a big difference when chris christie was there, we'd have a better sense of what's going on. we do know there is some type of communication that exists between people in fishman's office and people involved with the legislative committee. >> so they don't step on each other. >> and mainly the civil legislative committee doesn't step on the u.s. attorney. i don't think anything that the legislative committee does in terms of calling witnesses ademanding documents they're not going to do something that doesn't have tacit approval from the u.s. attorneys office. >> let's go to the dawn zimmer angle. the question of whether or not the entries in her written diary are factual or fanciful. does the fact she waited so long to come forward, does it impact in a sense her credibility or is she another person who potentially could take this investigation into a still further and more troubling direction for christie? >>

attorney paul fishman, the lead prosecutor in the scandal recently doubled the number of investigators on the case. sources close to the investigation connell firmed david wildstein the executive who orchestrated lane closures is cooperating with the investigati investigation. he was appointed by christie and has told investigators he informed the governor at a 9-11 memorial event. that's just days after the lane closures ended but long before the govern says he learned -- the governor says he learned about them. federal prosecutors are bringing witnesses before a grand jury to decide whether there should be charges and a criminal trial. this sparks a new phase in the investigation. a grand jury, no judge is present. the normal rules of evidence don't apply. leading questions are allowed. hearsay testimony is permitted and often encouraged and the witness cannot have his or her attorney in the room. furthermore, a grand jury serves an accusatory function. the panel does not determine innocence or guilt, only if probable cost exists to believe a felony was committed. at a news conferenc

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