my name is paul fletcher. gtwashington state penitentiary.the federal government and got it funded. one of the first in 1968. then, we started a halfway house at the university of washington. they got paroled to that halfway house. they checked themselves out and went to class and came back. one was named ron. a couple hollywood movies. also placed in the prison. i know how those systems work. rockefeller was the one that kstopped the whole system from doing any kind of education. you are doing some hard work. i appreciate what you are doing. >> yes. wondering what they did on rockefeller. >> the way she ins the book is the response by the ruling white oligarchy. it is fascinating with the internal documents. they all think it's the beginning of a malice revolutioi in fact, argues, solve turbocharge the demonizing of special black men, but also the foundation of this draconian parcel state as a response. i interviewed for about six hours. this consciousness from the 60s and early 70s by black radicals. hhe is kind of the old head in the priso

my name's paul fletcher. i used to do similar work at mcneil's penitentiary and washington state penitentiary, and the inmates wrote a grant, and they went to the federal government and got it funded. i got them out on furlough. and we got a halfway house which was one of the first in washington state in 1968. then we set up a halfway house on a top floor of the dorm at the university of washington, and if they were two years towards their parole, they got paroled to that halfway house, and they checked themselves out and went to class, and then they came back. there's one of the play wrights who was in that prison was named ron. he was in a couple of hollywood movies, but he also wrote plays when he was in the prison, so i know how those systems work. it is just interesting that you ended with rockefeller because rockefeller was the one who stopped the whole system from doing any kind of education. >> that's right. >> so you're doing some hard work. i appreciate what you're doing, and keep it up. >> have you