paul friedmann is the chair of the cardiovascular medicine at the mayo clinic what did you see here? >> any human ak tuffty riding a bicycle, playing piano, takes practice and the more you can practice without putting people at risk the better. so they're on the right track. >> what have you seen? do you use virtual reality >> we do we've established a virtual reality last right next to our cath lab you're going to do a procedure and let's say somebody who has slightly atypical anatomy, imagine being able to walk into that heart, see that person's specific anatomy you can do that. you put a ct disk in the computer, put on the glasses and you're literally walking into an image of that individual's heart. so you can have a sense of where their unique valves or appendages or other structures are situated >> how long has that been around >> it's all fairly emerging technology there are things you can do. say a doctor at a far away hospital is doing a procedure and it's not one they've done before they get into a situation where they need help imagine we can put on glasses, b they wear gl