we're speaking with esteemed radio executive turn media studies professor david bernstein and paul glazer, who in addition to owning radio stations is himself a popular conservative radio and tv ponder his blog is you tell me texas dot com. david and paul both appeared at the recent talker as conference at hoster university, as did bill o'reilly without rush limbaugh, who is really the leader of it. no doubt the rush limbaugh was the leader of the conservative movement in america. there's no politician came close to him and there's nobody on television that can touch him. and he had built that up over decades and his reach was so vast and for 3 hours day, you could count on him putting forth what the conservative point of view was. that's gone. so now you have it's balkanized now. yeah. instead of one standard, barry at 10. david and paul, we 3 met here a couple of months ago is various would be rush replacements. were carving up the map of his hundreds of affiliate stations. and paul, yours was one of those stations. how is life after limbaugh going there in east texas? so far so good, b