good morning to you, larry. >> good morning. >> pick up with paul haggis left off.s scientology a cult. based on your reporting, is that what you would call it? >> i don't use those words, only one opinion that matters about whether it's religion or a cult and that's the irs and they made that decision in 1993 in the nation of 2400 lawsuits from the church and church members. >> concluding it is a religion? >> yes. >> let's talk about what you found in your book. you say you interviewed more than 200 people you looked at thousands of pages of documents. what is the most troublesome practice you say you uncovered through your research? >> the recruitment of children at very young age to join their clergy call a sea orb, they step away from their education, they are impoverished by their service and made to work long hours, as paul said you can on that clip. some of these kids, you know, one of them i talked to, he was put in one of these heavy machinery factories where they notch books and they chopped off part of his finger. he was 16 years old. according to the lab