dustin paul has had neither, but that hasn't stopped him from trying. >> how far did you get?> not very far. not even out the door most of the time. >> right now i'm ready to get out of here. >> oh. there's probably anywhere from seven to ten attempts where he attempted to, i guess, exit his cell or his room area. >> paul is awaiting trial on charges of receiving and concealing a stolen motor vehicle, to which he's pled not guilty. >> i wasn't happy about being here. because really i shouldn't be here. i didn't know that car was stolen. >> many of paul's escape attempts were captured on surveillance cameras. >> the officer's currently doing what we call a block check. he's checking on the inmates. in order for him to do this black check he needs to go into his sub day room and go into the individuals' cells. mr. paul happens to be out in his day room time in the sub day room and seizes that opportunity and runs out of his sub day room through the larger day room. >> where were you trying to go when you were running? >> trying to get as far as i could get and trying to set a re

donation list and list of volunteers and the rest of it, but he loses in a way because ron paul the father, has image of being more extreme. even a bit kooky on some things. rand paul is more mainstream. is he more practical, and he is doing one smart thing, bill, which is to go out and appeal to groups that republicans normally don't appear before. that's a good thing. i do think on the whole ron paul hurts rand paul. >> the younger republicans like senator paul, right? they are the ones that form his base of operations now, the younger voters? >> yeah that was true for ron paul as well. you see where it got him. you know, it gets you a consistent 10, 15, 20%, can you win some caucuses but broad base primaries no. >> all right. doctor, as always, we appreciate it directly ahead, john stossel the lib baron stossel on the rand paul situation and republican party in general. then, later will compare nbc super bowl interview with president obama to might chat with him last year. factor is coming right back. get to our pal john who anchors program on wednesday evenings. rand paul ducking the factor

kentucky senator rand paul has been the winner for two straight years. three-peat? we will let you know what happens when it happens live right here moments away on the fox news channel. >>> and the latest on that brazen assassination of a prominent russian opposition leader. he feared vladimir putin would kill him. he reportedly was ready to tell the world about russia's role in the ukraine crisis. why he was shot who did it, the former president of georgia is here to fill us in. >> i was in shock because just to imagine in the center, also near the kremlin, this is absolutely beyond imagination. i cannot understand, couldn't even think about that before. (melodic, calm music) hi, this is jennifer i will be out of the office until monday, and won't be checking voicemail during this time. i'll reply just as soon as i get back to work. sail with the number one cruise line in alaska. enjoy 7-day cruises from $499. call your travel consultant or 1-800-princess. princess cruises. come back new. >>> it's the bottom of the hour, time for the top of the news. t

paul has always denied the charges.cember that former friends now cross the street to avoid him. campus flyers proclaim him a rapist warning students to steer clear. this week he's again declaring his innocence in a public way. he released to the daily beast facebook messages he says he and emma exchanged during the weeks surrounding the alleged assault. paul says the tone and content of these messages prove that nothing that happened between them on the night of august 27th changed their relationship. from august 29th paul invites emma to a party and as you can see she appears to respond with an enthusiastic yes. on october 4th after paul sends emma a birthday greeting emma responds, i love you, paul. where are you? emma did confirm to the daily beast that these messages were from her and explained that her initial instincts were to reach out to paul, someone she had seen as a close friend and try to understand what had happened. she concluded by saying i want other survivors to know that if you reach out to your attac

rand paul has a bad habit of saying one thing in one place and saying something somewhere else and saying he didn't say it. >> at a basic level, we talk about mitt romney and the downfalls of running for president a couple of times and not doing so well. one of the great things running for president more than ones is you have experience in it. the two candidates who are testing the waters for the first time, they have a risk of being caught off guard by issues they didn't expect to be talking about. in chris christie's case and rand paul to some degree, the experience of seeing something that you've been seeing in your home state and suddenly saying it in front of a national audience is much different. >> understanding it. understanding you're speaking at a time when the country is dealing with this in more than a dozen states. whether you like it or not, we live in the ages of you can get asked about boxers or briefs. you're going to get asked questions of war and piece. you want the nuclear football? anything. >> you saw the other republicans. most other republicans came out and said, l

chris paul has a different stature in the nba because he represents players. ave a right to speak back to reves, but has to have done in the right environment. it has to be respectful but not in an environment where the refs are trying to get control of the game. chris paul has to be sharp enough to understand the full terrain. he should have gave himself a quiet kind of timeout at the end of the game considering how heatedheat ed ed he was. >> this might not be for her. that's a cheap shot. always great to have you with us. thanks so much. >>> coming up, the two-minute drill. tiger and cheetahs and rookies, oh, my. stay tuned. into the cupboard. embarrassingly deep. can this mismatched mess be conquered... by a little bit of dish liquid? it can if it's dawn ultra. it's more concentrated... ...just one bottle has the grease cleaning power of two bottles of this bargain brand. here's to the over-extended family gathering. dawn, it's amazing what a drop can do. they're coming. what do i do? you need to catch the 4:10 huh? the equipment tracking system will get yo

and a final note, clippers guard chris paul has been find for criticizing -- has been fined after criticizinge referee after their loss to cleveland. he was a little frustrated. >> powerball fever sweeping the country, the jackpot tonight -- dollars on$380 million. if there is a winner tonight, there is a lump sum option of taking $260 million. >> i have to show another sunset picture from annamaria. hopefully you enjoyed it. overnight tonight, the temperatures falling into the 30's with cloud cover. tomorrow, more clouds than sun unseasonably mild, 58 the high. >>> welcome to "world news tonight." extreme weather. drenching rain and powerful winds batter the west. the new storms threatening floods and mudslides. and bracing for another wild weekend in the east. boston in for another foot of snow? >>> terror alert. new arrests right here at home. six people including a mother of four accused of sending weapons to isis. and the parents of that young american woman held hostage by the terror group make a public plea, hoping she's still alive. >>> deadly crash. former olympian and reality star b

and this morning paul krugman has a piece the times about if you look at global distributions of wealth and global class structures in the last half century that you see these two spikings and one is the upper class, the 1% in the west and the sore essentially the rising chinese middle-class and what lies in the middle is essentially the working class and the industrial west. so i really think that there is a way in which we can think about the 1970s as representing a true crisis for the industrial working class of the west. a crisis from which it's yet to recover. and that particular crisis ties in to all of these in all kinds of ways because the notion that the white working glass inging class in the united states is in the midst of an economic crisis is mobilized in these conversations

senator rand paul has fired opening volleys at jeb bush, a likely opponent in the upcoming republican admits he smoked marijuana, but he wants to put people in jail who do. i think that's the real hi hypocrisy. this comes after former florida governor jeb bush admitted to smoking pot and drinking while he was at andover in prep school. that didn't keep him from opposing medical marijuana whereas rand paul has called for dramatic changes in drug policy and prison reform. yeah, this -- i think rand paul is absolutely right about. >> oh, he's home run right. this is completely hypocritical. this is a classic example of do as i say, not as i smoke, that whole -- if you think about this, like jeb bush and the double standard that's in play, first of all, i think it's a toxic thing to even introduce that he smoked weed because we've elected a lot of president -- >> oh, yeah, who cares. >> clinton, obama, but rand is right, you know? ken ken yeah. >> i don't think it'll hurt jeb. >> his reason was we'll make florida less family friendly. >> oh, come on. >> not very family friendly to send so

that is something that rand paul does not believe and we know that from what rand paul has said. the other thing is when he was asked about what do you do about isis, his response was eventually he wipes them out. at least rhetorically that is what obama is doing. there is a lot of room to -- to will the actions to meet that goal. you tighten the news and you do things and wipe them out. that is what obama is talking about. >> you know a lot about foreign-policy politics. tell me about where you think he is on the aces of the speech where he is most vulnerable to criticism from within his party. it will be a big subject in the republican nomination fight. >> it is very important, i would say. jeb bush careful to say the enemy ideologically was a radical violent islam. obama would not say that but his rather would not say that either. is that enough to cover his flank with the element of the republican party that wants a lot more focus on the islamic element of the ideology of our enemies? he will probably you very much on the conventional side. the other thing is you got the sens

. >> i think bush and rubio, and i think the one who has gotten attention that really needs to prove he can perform is rand paul. he can appeal to younger people. the other thing is the electoral college. you have got to take four states away from the democrats and you can't just have the inside straight. chris christie has a looming possibility to convince people he can compete in blue states. he's going to have to make that argument harder. >> happy birthday to john ellis bush. he turned 62 today. like all americans nearing retirement age, there is some good news and bad news. the good news is he's about to get a huge birthday present at a wall street fundraiser. tickets went for $100,000 per person. the bad news is, a troublemaker just left him because of a bunch of stupid tweets that he stupidly tweeted. on balance, is this a happy birthday or a sad birthday? >> it is a happy birthday. the biggest story is jeb bush's fundraising dominance. i've never heard of a $100,000 a head fund raiser. these other people are just getting started. jeb bush is dominating. >> i think it is a happy birthday. he is coming ou

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including yet another thing that senator rand paul has to say about vaccines. thinking about what you want to do with your money? daughter: looking at options. what do you guys pay in fees? dad: i don't know exactly. daughter: if you're not happy do they have to pay you back? dad: it doesn't really work that way. daughter: you sure? vo: are you asking enough questions about the way your wealth is managed? wealth management at charles schwab. >>> my boy friend alex jones is the swiss cheese mind behind info wars. a conspiracy factory of paranoia unveiling the operations that are happening right under your nose, people. ebola, all a conspiracy to take your guns, or whatever. this week a conservative website dredged up footage of rand paul telling that crazy show the most amazing thing about the government's plan to take over your lives. starting with vaccines. this thing rand paul said is a wonder. and it is straight ahead. >>> the front page of the lexington herald leader newspaper today. biggest newspapers in kentucky. look, right on the front page above the fo

paul, a retired attorney learned several years ago he has alzheimer's. >> nobody wants to be diagnosedeimer's. it's something not new to me because my father suffered from it as well. >> reporter: paul already has trouble remembering simple things like the day of the week so every day his wife goes over the schedule. >> today is monday, today at 1:30, we go to brentwood presbyterian. >> reporter: they have found new ways to communicate and his music is a big part of that. >> it has always been a part of paul's life but i think it became a language for him and i think he could express himself emotionally with his music in ways that was satisfying to the deepest parts of himself. and for those who have ears to hear, they hear what he's saying. >> reporter: so they looked around for others who had ears to hear. >> the unstated part of it is you need to be around people, and going into isolation because you're ashamed or worried you're going to be made a fool of is not only not fruitful but it's silly. >> reporter: when maureen heard about an unusual group of musicians who get together to

ron paul has a massive following, especially among libertarians. a big following amongst millennials. he's going to have to have an answer for this tech thing. and by the way, i would like to see democrats take on ron paul for saying this because not only is it offensive, this isn't even dog whistling. this is kicking the dog. it is beyond offensive. in fact what he said is immoral and unchristian. >> does senator rand paul have to answer for his father's words? >> well i've never been of the rule of thought that people need to be held accountable for things that they didn't say themselves. but the issue for rand paul is rand paul himself. he has very dubious and highly suspect ties to white organizations that now are calling themselves libertarian groups. he's also said things himself on the record that was racial. >> stephanie, do we hold family members responsibility for what they say? >> he has a guy named southern avenger and said to rachel he's not so sure about the 1964 civil rights act. he has his own problems and his dad's genetic trait to

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paul has three children and lost his wife that day. the government promised to give him and others like him a job as compensation, something he says the government is working on. >> i feel like it's an accident that occurred. it's not an intentional act so i believe that nobody invites people to. in the name of -- i give you job. i believe it's an accident and the federal government has promised to recruit the three members of the families so they can fill in the gaps. >> the government is advertising more jobs. moses has decided to apply. he survived last year's stampede. >> i had to survive so i looked for a safe place and stayed there, and after the stampede, after everything calmed down, i moved with some of of the friends i went there with. >> the stampede at the jobs fair showed unemployment is a serious problem. around 1.6 million students graduate every year, but there are not nearly enough jobs for them. when the government advertise vacancies, literally millions of people apply. >> the government says safety has been improved

. >> reporter: rand paul has long been a favorite with cpac's younger crowd. tomorrow's straw poll results will reveal this year's conservative favorite. kelly o'donnell, nbc news, washington. >>> the man who was the voice of logic in one of the most memorable roles in television history has died. leonard nimoy who played mr. spock on "star trek" and helped the series gain a huge cult following that endures to this day. here's nbc's rehema ellis. >> reporter: for millions of "star trek" fans leonard nimoy will be forever known as the pointy-eerd vulcan in the '60s sci-fi hit. >> lawlessly logical. >> reporter: his portrayal of spock earned him three emmy nominations. >> open your mind. >> reporter: born in boston, massachusetts, leonard nimoy started acting at 8, moved to hollywood at 18 and had small parts in film and television. but "star trek" in 1966 made him a star. >> there was something that we would call a humanity about this character. and for me it was a great experience to live with that for a long time. >> reporter: off screen nimoy was also an aut

>> paul, this is a hit to cholesterol, which has been exonerated after 40 years.e federal board that sets nutrition guidelines this week said dietary cholesterol is no longer a nutrient of concern for a link to heart disease. this is a victory for the humility that's supposed to belong to the scientific method and another reminder that government is never on mission. >> is this a hit for being wrong for 30 years? >> this is a hit for fixing your mistakes. >> and scientific, and some skepticism about government health pledges, or advice. that's it for this week's show. thanks to my panel and for all of you for watching. i'm paul gigot. hope to see you right here next week. ♪ >>> and time now for "sunday housecall." i'm eric shawn. >> and i'm after sella neville. welcome. dr. david samadi is chairman and professor of neurology at lenox hill hospital and chief of robotic surgery. >> and dr. marc siegel, nyu's langone medical center and author of "the inner pulse: unlocking the code of sickness and inner health." >> great to see you both. we have an action-packed show

but after a few years with his scottish chimps family, paul has learned to ask for it their way. to human ears, the grunts may sound quite similar, but researchers say finding out chance can learn each other sounds is a breakthrough. >> we need a bit more research to find out if they could still understand one another before they started the matching calls. is this like me learning the french word for apple's i could communicate with a french person or is it like moving the glasgow and start speaking with an accent. >> the idea that dutch chimps started speaking with an accent certainly entertained visitors. >> that is absolutely bizarre. it's hilarious. oh, my goodness. >> it's great to hear them as well. >> on just listening out for this. >> researchers suggest our ancestors' behavior is far more similar to our own than originally thought, and it helps explain what is special about human communication. the ability to talk to one another developed when the groups from different countries bonded, and it has come as no prize to the keepers that it all started over an apple. >> chi

paul has learned to speak >> is this like me learning the french word for apple, so i can communicates it like me moving to glasgow and after five years, start speaking with a glaswegian accent? >> reporter: unclear. but it proves chimps can control their grunts. it's almost language as we know it. not just an excited innate animal reaction to stimuli. like louis the chimp, i'm from scotland, and i say apple. like paul the chimp, my kid's lived overseas a few years in los angeles. now he says -- >> apple. >> reporter: subtle, but seismic. >> this proves they are like humans. we do the same thing, don't we? >> yeah. >> reporter: and, just like humans, they like to fit in. nick watt, abc news, los angeles. >> just like us. "gma" and "this week" in the morning and we hope to see you right back here tomorrow night. i'm cecilia vega in new york. thanks for spending part of your saturday with us. good night. good night. >>> a break in the heavy rain right now. but the cleanup continues after yesterday's storm swiftly moved in, and battered the bay area. tomorrow, another storm is on its way

paul. this is no longer a work in progress. this is a victory that putin has consolidated.age in the past week of what was going on in the battle and the russians by now had moved in heavy artillery, tanks, and missile installations. ukrainians are completely over matched. even sending them defensive weapons at this point would be n no appetite to do that and are using the cease-fire as an excuse not to impose new sanctions and president obama has taken weapons off the table at least no longer beingyç discussed. look like he's won on9@mÑ=?qr side. >> it's mind-boggling the paralysis the obama administration displays here really when not only is you know putin taking ukraine but, you know, the british defense minister last week said that they had captured an estonan border guard. that requires a na to response. if he doesn't do something like this this is the end of nato. >> the defense minister said the same kind of tactics putin used in ukraine, which is diversionary, he intervened by deny, put troops in on the sly and stirred up ethnic tensions inside a country could be u

sir paul has had 32 number one singles, but what's amazing this time is it's been 29 years since the last one of his songs was in the top ten. that's a record, pun completely intended. >> i can't get that song out of my head, "four five seconds." >> i love that song. >> it's a good angry song. i need it a lot. what's that say about me? >> a lot. >> yeah. >>> when we come back, new this morning, a major life change for amanda knox, the american convicted of murder in an italian court. >>> plus, arrested for wearing yoga pants? where one american lawmaker wants to ban the trendy workout gear. you want i fix this mess? a mess? i don't think -- what's that? snapshot from progressive. plug it in and you can save on car insurance based on your good driving. you sell to me? no, it's free. you want to try? i try this if you try... not this. okay. da! i have a cold with terrible chest congestion. better take something. theraflu severe cold doesn't treat chest congestion. really? new alka-seltzer plus day powder rushes relief to your worst cold symptoms plus chest congestion. oh, what a relief

better night's sleep ♪ >>> the 2016 presidential race has not yet officially begun, but already one man is vying to be troller and chief. that man is rand paulle braggy retweets about flying coach, he is taken to twitter. the senator has not been shy about twitter takedowns of his potential republican rivals. jeb bush and mitt romney flank hillary clinton has #thingstorun from. paul is banking that social media can help him breakthrough in 140 characters or less but the strategy comes with real risk. paul doesn't write tweets himself and instead gives that authority to half a dozen staffers. risky business considering the resignation of a senior aide congressman aaron schock. not exactly the kind of drama congressman schock appeared to be going for. joining me now is patrick murphy and glen thrush. is the risk of social media worth the reward in your mind? >> i think so alex. listen, you have to play to win. not play to lose. >> you have to tweet to win. >> well, that's part of it. you have to talk to your constituents and to your younger audience. they are on social media. so you have to communicate to how they do it and where they are. i w

. >> paul has has secret parking someplace in the area. >> but they have portugese terrazo makes everythingter. >>> just another february day. you have seen the pictures from back east. they are trying to mail the snow back to us they have so much in boston. a gorgeous sunset over the golden gate bridge. the city hit 67 degrees today. so what's going on east of the rockies? you know what they are having in they are not just having winter weather. as i show you video here, they are having thunder sleet. it's sleeting in texas. and yes, a thunderstorm, too. so while we enjoy a partly sunny day with highs around 70, in texas they are dealing with thundersleet. sounds like an ac/dc song. vallejo 48 tonight. concord 45. san jose 47. santa rosa 43. not as chilly because we are grabbing more of the ocean influence. here's the not so good side about this quote, unquote beautiful weather to be outdoors in. we have almost zero snowpack. it's 19% of normal and that is a problem not only for the ski industry, it is a problem for the thousands of farmers that rely on that snow to melt in the spring and

i know you like rand paul a lot. he has the libertarian side to him. what do you think about that? here's a couple of things and i think that scott walker is rand paul's dangerous threat. i know that rand paul has been running against hillary clinton for a year now but two boxes that he doesn't check, one is the executive experience. it's being a governor and even though rand paul is very -- he's being very specific about his foreign policy crafting the fact that so many people especially republicans and this will hurt him in primaries think of him as an isolationist, that gives scott walker room to you know, if he's really a fresh candidate, if he knows about foreign policy he could make great gains but if he's weak on foreign policy that could act toward walker's detriment. >> because isis and radical islam is a huge front burner issue, people are considering it their number one priority as much as the economy which we haven't seen in five years. do any of the candidates that are on that screen do any of them seem to be articulating the right strategy or you look at it and you say

paul? >> yeah, well maybe. what it will come down to is these guys all pushing to be the alternative to jeb bush. they want to put themselves out there. but just in case jeb has a hard time getting across the finish line, doesn't have a good rollout or a good speed. they're talking tough now and they want to be that candidate. rand paul will be pushing against many in the republican party, but most of the american people i think agree with rand paul that the endless wars, the nation building, it has not been a good idea and he is looking to break down a lot of lines that we have seen and be a different kind of candidate and win the republican primary and moe on to have a outreach effort to many constituencies is that have not been favorable to republicans in the past. >> rand paul has won this straw poll as previous cpacs. we seen there in 2013, 2014. his father doing well earlier. do you think there is any kind of emerging libertarian consensus at cpac this year, and specifically on the president's proposal for new war powers against isis on a three-year basis. did you hear anything about that today? >> a little, i think you're libertarian minded people here

senator paul has deep ties to vaccine skeptics.r 20 years coming was a member of the american physicians and surgeons which is active moratorium on vaccine mandates. meanwhile, another possible republican presidential candidate, new jersey governor chris christie, was question about vaccines during his trip to england. >> do you think americans should vaccinate their kids? >> i can say is, we vaccinate hours. -- ours. it is much more important what you think as a parent and as a public official. there has to be a balance. it depends on what the vaccine is, and the rest. what i'm saying is, we have to have a balance in considering parental concerns. >> new jersey governor chris christie spokesman later said the governor believed kids should be vaccinated against measles. for more we're joined by several guests today. later in the broadcast, we will speak with mary holland, the mother of a child with regressive autism, who she believes was injured by the measles, mumps rubella vaccine and we will speak with dr. paul offit. but first,

kentucky senator rand paul has won the cpac straw poll for the past two years in a row.to wait to see how he does this year when the official results are announced around 4:30 eastern. >>> okay. a scheduled rally in moscow protesting russia's actions in ukraine was canceled following the murder of prominent opposition leader, instead becoming a tribute, who was one of vladimir putin's most outspoken critics. in fact, he was fatally shot last night just hours after a radio interview denounceing putin's tactics in ukraine as, quote, mad and aggressive. sad story. amy kellogg has more from london. >> there are lots of theories being bandied about because he was a fierce critic of the kremlin, some people speculate the government was behind his murder, because he was a fierce critic of the war in ukraine some think that possibly ukrainian separatists could have arranged his assassination and they've come up with some lines of its own including one suggesting someone inside the opposition could have orchestrated the murder to, quote, destabilize the country or that islamic ex

and david schuster has more. >> reporter: rand paul is being out flanked by somebody to the left, who is normally to the right. and that's ben carson, a neuro surgeon. he has been getting a lot of attention. he issued this statement: if you haven't heard much about ben carson, that is going to change. styling about our culture has been resonating with republican activists. >> as we begin to throw away all of our values and all of our principles, and we forget who we are we will go from being great to being nothing. and we have to fight that. >> according to federal election commission reports last year, run ben run the federal political action committee, seeking carson, raised over $12 million and that's more than any presidential pact, including one that rand paul has. and running for hillary which supports a potential clinton campaign. elizabeth warren continues to insist that she's not running in 2016, but the progressive move. urging her to take on hillary clinton, is gaining steam. dozens of activists led by mark ruffalo, urging other celebrities to join in the cause. >> brothers

rand paul has been marginalized by saying this stuff and ben carson came out and said vaccines saved hundredthousand of lives. >> do you not care about children? how about about other people's children. come on, think about the impact. do you think it's a child to see a suffering from polio measles or any of these other things? my god. >> i'm not defending the "don't vax flat your kidccinate your kids" i vaccinated my son. we don't trust government for so many things. >> the state is enforcing it. the issue came up, should we change the law to11kf'date it. >> ault 50 states, 48 out of 50 you you can get religious exception. exception exems em exemption. when clinton and obama said it the media didn't bring up media bias. >> if you're running a campaign you say, this is what we stay away from. >> you have to take a position if you expect to be elected. >> if you're going to take a position. vaccines work. >> say dr. carsens said it works. >> that's one thing the state is saying. they are not saying they are controlling your life. the fact is you don't have to stop at a stop sign if yo

any surprise for you that rand paul was number two there? >> not at all. he hasther's infrastructure. he's a much more dynamic charismatic candidate. he'll abe force no matter how bad a week he did or didn't have. he'll be a force. >> he had some of the biggest, most exciting rallies that we saw in iowa last time. >> and he's playing to that. rand paul has done tremendously well in getting his name out for the last few years. so now, asid people will be testing the charmin to see what wears well. what they're going to see is can you perpetuate that momentum for continuing long time. can i have a beer with you for a sustained many many, many months. >> folks there are very savvy and they do want to talk to people one on one and meet their kids. hillary clinton, no surprise, is at the top there. very solidly 56%. elizabeth warren says i'm not running no matter what at 16%. and joe biden whether he's going to get in or out, 9%. is anyone going to step up and start spending time in iowa to challenge her? >> not at all, but i think this is a challenge for the democrat

paul, why is he down? >> well there's only so much room in a list of ten people. so if senator cruz is up, someone has to be down. senator paul is going to florida and doing the thing. but there's probably only room for one conservative senator in this race. in the end, there's probably only going to be one person for the die-hard right wing, probably only going to be one candidate. and ted cruz is making a convincing case he can be that guy. >> what about governor mike huckabee? how do you see him? >> he moves down a begpeg but only because governor kasich said, don't forget about me. ohio is the most important battleground state in the country. john kasich making a strong argument he might get in this race. if you're from ohio, attention must be paid. he bumps governor huckabee down a peg as he comes into the lineup for the first time. we'll see if he stays. >> very interesting. you also have a radar screen for us. who's on the radar? >> dropping off the radar anyway, is mitt romney, who he had been tracking. he acted like he might run. he's not doing that. rick santorum, bobby jindal mike pence and

certainly rand paul has. and by virtue of his association with his father is a well-known name.national politics. when you're governor you don't necessarily rise to the national stage to the degree you do when you're one of the elite 100 in washington or like jeb bush, you carry a very famous name along with you. so i think this really is a boost for scott walker. i think they're probably very pleased in scott walker's camp to come in second. i think they've got to be pleased in jeb bush's camp as well after being the subject and the target of so much derision by the republican party to company in fifth. i bet the conspiracy theorists are going to say he stacked the deck by bussing all these people in. >> you make a good point about walker. winning the iowa auction he's been making a lot of headlines dealing with the union situation in wisconsin. is he punching through? can you say he's punching through the field and does that new emergence, does that last and can it continue to keep him going through the convention and probably through next year? >> reporter: he's definitely pu

rand paul has heard of many cases of children who wound up with mental disorders after vaccines.nd another candidate tells me what he thinks next. the real question that needs to be asked is "what is it that we can do that is impactful?" what the cloud enables is computing to empower cancer researchers. it used to take two weeks to sequence and analyze a genome; with the microsoft cloud we can analyze 100 per day. whatever i can do to help compute a cure for cancer, that's what i'd like to do. >> the growing measles outbreak has now hit a california day care center forcing infants into quarantine. a baby who attends that day care who was too young to be vaccinated contracted the disease. the care center has shut down all infant classes indefinitely because of the potential exposure. 11 students have not been immunized because their parents opted out. we are seeing more and more presidential hopefuls with their thoughts on whether parents should be forced to get their kids vaccinated. hillary tweeted. the earth is round, the sky is blue and science knows best. let's bring in dr. b

paul do that. >> he came out gain civil right of 64, a record he has to answer. >> rand paul has a long way to gominee this issue is not about the issues you talked about. this is going to be about leadership, we have seen a failure of leadership in this white house in the last 6 years. whoever is elected has to prove i have ideas i going to govern. lou: you know al sharpton, national review, reporting every single private sector, for profit has been dissolved because of tax hraoepbgs that liens and this is the man representing president on race issues. >> i don't think he is. lou: you don't he wasn't his liaison in ferguson. >> no, that was eric holder. lou: about what was al sharpton's role, he was in the white house how many times. >> i don't know. >> he has a role in civil rite process, i am not defending his conduct, businesses or statements but i am not over stating his importance. >> are not? >> no. lou: is he irstkpwhreur in irrelevant? >> in many respects yes. >> he should be irrelevant, he is a conman, at the end of the day he should not lead the march public and should not discuss race

the last two years rand paul has won but mitt romney has won four times prior. s your name? >> daisy. >> dazey, do you know who you are going to vote for? >> rand paul. >> i'm voting for scott walker from wisconsin. >> i like jeb bush. >> i also stand with rand. i also like rand paul because i like what he and his father have like stood individual liberty and having lots of economic freedom. >> who best represents your values among those running for the nomination. >> dr. ben carson hands down. >> i'm ready for a country that puts our constitution on the top shelf. >> because we have never been in politics before. we heard him just at a prayer breakfast. he told us exactly what we needed. we need this man so bad. primarily because he is not a politician. because i think he is the most genuine candidate. >> the real message is that, you know america is for us. is for the people. it's not for the government. the government is there to serve us. not to serve the government. >> he is a patriot and not a politician. he combines a high degree of intelligence with commo

so paul, it has been like six months? >> i wish i had done it two years before. it was so hard running y combinator. -- i amt an admin is not an administrator. >> you said you would get your brain back. did you? >> yeah. i had lunch with the founder of the strike and 100% of the conversation was take over the world, that is the best possible office hours. >> i am still involved. i am doing the same things i used to do, engaged in different things. i miss working with paul, but i also enjoyed working with sam. >> set was the founder of your first company. -- >>ou step down >> he is better at me than this. i was good giving advice to sounders. >> they are different. sound -- sam brings a lot to the table that neither of us have come up this amazing amount of energy and patience that is needed to broker-deals with investors. y combinator is doing a lot of things as a result. my family came here from england when i was three and a half. we lived in pittsburg. when you design a nuclear reactor, he was the one that told you if it was going to explode. i was a bad kid.