does criticism of israel for what many see as a disproportionate response when earlier i spoke to paul hirsh on his foreign ministry spokesperson who says israel does its best to prevent the killing of innocents. is operating in a way which is taking every possible step to avoid civilian casualties how do you account for the law save the children charity i will ask you here to save the children charity they are saying families are running out of food and water eighteen hours of power cuts are making matters worse you are in effect targeting an entire population. no absolutely not hamas is essentially a synonym for for a double war crime they deliberately get our civilians while at the same time with an element of pride hiding behind their own civilians just recently in the jerusalem post not sure on the side of the former prime minister ariel sharon he said that the residents of gaza and not innocent because they elected a mass therefore he's implying they are legitimate targets are they not and that is why civilians are now being killed. both civilians are not being targeted but they're. re

see as a disproportionate response let's not talk about that in israel's before the crisis with paul hirsh on his foreign ministry spokesperson joining me in tel aviv well just yesterday your boss and israeli interior minister called for gaza to be bombed into the middle ages that's what he said what do you mean by that. well if we're talking about my boss the foreign minister what he said is if we have no choice and we are forced into a ground operation then the israeli military needs to go all the way what he means is very clear we've set as a goal bringing a sense of calm and normalcy to the civilian population of israel in southern israel who've been subjected to years of of missiles incessantly and indiscriminately fired into our residential areas and what he means is a day sion of the command and control and operational capability of hamas and some of their cronies the palestinian islamic jihad and such what you just said the words go all the way he's mentioned the words middle ages that in effect could be interpreted as destroying infrastructure roads water supplies that is surely t