paul hogan over one law as well as beliefs that the getty of the r c has lamented what they call the role of international players when it comes to the situation in that area. but the united states, which so my c as long client is what the d r c is trying to be seen as an honest broker between the 2. we call on countries in the region to use all means available to them to urge an immediate cessation of hostilities. an immediate resumption of consultations on concrete steps to deescalate current tensions. but on can lead us, i'm not really going to count how to the western powers or as they would have them. a b 2 leaders are weighted to bring heavy delegation on makes them interesting. in the main bed and african leadership, they have been to piece processes, if you will, that looked into the situation in the d. c. namely build on one piece process which facilitates peace between the, the us the and grammar. and we also had that my role review process, which was really looking into the piece facilitation inside of the asi itself. as you know, the, you estimate the, our, than 100 rabbl

. >> the challenge, if you are chris cristi or larry hogan or former speaker paul ryan is that you couldn'trump for the nomination. >> i totally agree with you. in terms of just having some skepticism right now, this was the watershed moment, that turned the course of the conversation on donald trump. i just think we need more time to see. i do think what we have is sort of the latest data point. you have like these dots starting to emerge and you can connect the lines. he lost the popular vote in 2016, he lost worse in 2020. then he unleashed this national trauma that permanently hurt the gop brand and now he is thinking about and has now announced a 2024 come back. there are all these republicans who, for years, have been holding your breath wondering when is the right time to publicly defy trump. are we seeing that in a permanent manner and? i'm not sure. i do think there are a lot of people looking at what is going on and send to themselves why not me? why shouldn't this be my moment? >> when you listen to donald trump, he lies a lot. he said he does. when you look at the january 6 comm