. >> aicher up but to paul humphrey or jfk or martin luther king over both my grandfather's began as coal miners. once spent his entire life there and another is able to get into the kirsch restore business with there were leaders but roosevelt and but that is the different kind of liberalism. >> host: the active? is this the new deal to keep in those who are in haiti in the i have come fetes story is partially true battle so he is active in the young democrats in twice elected governor of the conference. 1976 and alternate candidate at the convention that nominated jimmy carter. i myself was a supporter of carter. what it got be moving in the more conservative direction in the in particular it is a portion and that was not part of the picture. but it became that way starting their early '70's as the etf was democratic orthodoxy that a quality in liberty required of legality of a public funding of abortion i thought that was tragically wrong. to put the democratic party on the wrong side of the liberal movement of the moral question and to but the assessing funds but the failure of t