you have paul jacobs, former ceo and some of the founders trying to take the company private. the status of that? this summit is that you worked with for years and that you know very well. steve: we haven't heard anything actually. it's been a quiet. if anyone came up with an offer, paul or someone else, we would listen to it, but we have not heard anything. emily: do you talk with him on a regular basis or are you still engaged? steve: no, he has left the company so we really don't have those types of conversations. but if there were in need for one, of course we would we know each other well. emily: part of the argument behind going private is the licensing is complex. perhaps it would be better outside of public scrutiny. you are making these long-term investments that will take time to pay off and investors need to be patient. what you think about that? steve: i think it is an interesting argument. by and large, in practice, how have we run the company? even with a lot of screwed into the we have done a lot of those things. it is not clear to me there is an advantage one w

. ♪ emily: the takeover drama is still not over because you have paul jacobs trying to take the companyat is the status of that? this is somebody you worked with for years you know very well. steve: we have not heard anything, actually. it has been pretty quiet. if anybody came up with an offer, paul or someone else come up we would listen to it, but have not heard anything. emily: do you talk with him on a regular basis or are you still engaged with him? steve: no, he left the company. we don't have those conversations. if there is a need for one, we would. emily: part of the argument the hind going private is the licensing business is complex. wraps it would be better outside of public scrutiny. you are making long-term investments and long-term investors need to be patient. went you think about that? steve: it is an interesting argument. if you look at how we have run the company, even with a lot of scrutiny, it is not clear to me there is an advantage one way or the other. you are comparing it against something we have not seen. being do you think private could be equally advantageo

that is where we find paul jacobs great to see you take it away >> it is a pleasure to be back paul isting here with me former ceo and chairman. good to have you here. >> glad to be here >> it is beautiful why doesn't everybody live here? it is fantastic. we want to get to your new ventures in just a minute. first, it has been at the center of one of the most exfreud nar corporate events when they came out and basically labeled the company founded by your father as a national champion and said that what did you think as all of that was happening? >> i definitely did not expect president trump to come out and basically say they couldn't take the company over i thought that the process was just going to delay until there was -- but really the big issue is are we protecting technology and mobile technology is a global marketplace the business model that we look at right now is how do you drive innovation forward and how can you invest that makes that innovation go. that's what drives the economic benefits >> the underlying premise of why it should not be taken over; they were concerned ab

paul: mary? >> hits for jacob dei don't mean, the mets' right-handed pitcher not only because he threw eight scoreless-0 this week, but also because he finishes the season with having pitched 217 innings, 2 the 69 strikeouts and an earned run average of 1.be 7. only six other pitchers in history have done that. he deserves the kentucky young. paul: dan. well, a miss to governor andrew cuomo thought he had to address the fact that so many people are movingov out of the state. he said it's because the weather is so bad, that's why they move south. let's look at what the tax foundation has to say about new york state's tax level currently. its corporate rate does, indeed, rank seventh. its personal income rate is number 48, its sale tax is 42, and its property tax ranks 47th. if you're not a corporation in new york, you're going south. paul: all right. and remember, if you have your own hit or miss, be sure to tweet it to us. that's it for this week's show. thank toes to my panel and to all of you for watching. i'm paul gigot, hope to see you right here next week. ♪ ♪ >> lou: good evening, everybody. our

. >> no paul manafort, no robert mueller. jacob is still with me. msnbc political correspondent steve kornacki. i want to focus on independents. let's look at this quinnipiac poll. 69% of independent voters rate the economy as either excellent or good. in talking to those voters, also independent voters say they don't have a high approval rating of the job the president is doing. what is going to outweigh the other, the happiness with the economy or this number right here? >> well, i was saying to steve earlier actually that i think the idea that americans are all happy with the way the economy is going is sort of a fallacy. when you talk to people out there -- you know, back and forth last week, president obama and prurp weesident trump were g over who gets credit for the strength of the economy. you ask maine, they're like, excuse me, what? i still work two jobs. the minimum wage is not at the level i would like it to be. i don't even have a job. the paper mill in my town closed and a thousand people were laid off. i think it's a mistake to think

jacobs welsh. [bell chime] >> thank you to all of the family members and to mr. pauldoch for assisting us with this very special tradition of the observance ceremony. we also thank bill anders and sharon custer for their part in ringing the bells of remembrance. in november of 1863, at the dedication of a new national cemetery in gettysburg, pennsylvania, not that far from this very place, president abraham lincoln delivered the gettysburg address. referring to the bravery of the soldiers in the battle of gettysburg, president lincoln stated, "the world will little note or long remember what we say here, but it can never forget what they did here." those very same words could be said here at flight 93 national memorial. when the passengers and crewmembers of flight 93 learned that other planes had been used to strike the world trade center buildings, then the pentagon, they voted to take action. refusing to let their airplane be used to inflict more damage upon this nation. . in the process, they sacrificed their own lives to save many. visitors who come to this memor