paul jennings' descendants, hugh and mary alexander and paul jennings in their family. joe mcgair is also part of it, and next to joe is this mosaic made up fragments out of brick shards that were excavated. and there underneath the kid is a full-sized brick that was excavated that has the fingerprint in it of an enslaved child who would have made that brick. in part of the cellar we also decided to tell this national story about slavery, right? how does montpelier fit into the nation's history? how does the plantation fit into the economic world? how does slavery fund these states? how does the wealth that slavery created ascend to the presidency or translate into the presidency? how does that wealth or the people spouting the idealogy around slavery sort of get the stage in the 18th century? how do those ideas reach the national stage? and how do those ideas eventually translate into the constitution that madison created, right? our guy is the guy who created the constitution, and it protects slavery in like a half dozen different ways. we needed to call that out. we

so she got her servant and her slave paul jennings to wrestle it it off the wall, break it out of the it to two gentlemen from new york who put it in a cart and took it away. so all of this is getting scattered to the four winds, hoping something will survive, and she herself is taken away by carriage. she does cross -- i'm sorry, i don't know where. >> john is in bronx, new york. >> caller: thank you for taking my call. i understand that dolley madison died in poverty. i was just wondering if that is true and if so, how that happened. and then secondly, i know that eliza hamilton lived just around the corner from dolley madison in their old age. i was curious if the two ever interacted, given they had so much to probably talk about. thank you very much. >> how far into american history was it before presidents had pensions? >> a while. certainly not -- >> i think it might have been the trumans. >> -- the founding generations at all. >> so what they had was -- >> what they had was what they lived on when they retired. and the supposition was if you were wealthy enough to get into poli

in 2009 we met the family of paul jennings. he was madison's enslaved man serpent. paul was a guy that saved the picture of george washington, the church came to the white house. they get their photograph taken in front of the painting. which is really cool. i did not get invited on that trip unfortunately. [laughs] we also started public archeology programs. we had it going for a while. we send making a concerted effort to bring the dissenting community into those programs. we had descendants of exclaimed people digging on the sites. pulling objects out of the ground, the last people who touch those objects where their ancestors. that is really cool, meaningful stop. in 2014 the picture of everybody on the porch was an advisory committee that got to get it as a descendant community what else we should be doing and the current interpretation of montpelier. what else would they like to see? we were at a turning point where we had completed a few projects and did you know where we're going next and we want to their opinions. the big thing that came out of the meeting w

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