. >> host: paul johnson, who was socrates? >> guest: a 5th century bcathenian who never had a regular job. he was in the army, a distinguished fighter. in fact, one of the things we know about him is when people saw him approaching, they gave him a wide birth so he was a veer roashes man or could be a ferocious map, but he spent time wondering around athens talking to people. he was known as a philosopher, but he never wrote anything. he never published anything. all that we know about him or most of what we know about him, we get through his plato, but he went around at ms talking to people, interrogating them, asking them questions, listening to their views, and on the basis of this, that is what he taught. he taught people sitting at street corners, in the market place, and so he was absorbing and also emitting wisdom all his life, but in a practical basis, mainly from ordinary people. >> host: why was he killed? >> guest: he was killed because it was thought that he was a sweat of the morality of young people. this was a t

i would like to introduce paul johnson to give an overview of the program. >> if i could make a brief comment before that. i want to call you for calling the hearing. i am a huge fan of the parklets program and it's not because my aide created it in the planning department. i think it's part of a continuing trend in san francisco and other cities to create more and more public space and parks are terrific but they're only part of the picture. having public spaces inside of our neighborhoods and really improving our public realm and you see for example in new york city some of the innovative work they have done and understand just around parklets but larger public spaces whether it's the high line or anything else and it makes all the difference in the world to having a liveable and terrific urban setting, and i will just express my view that some of the challenges that we had around parklets are really because i don't think that the city has even vaguely prioritized the parklet program. we have seen de minimus if any funding in our budget process and we have not seen the commitment th

. >> host: and finally, paul johnson, what are you currently realizing? >> guest: currently reading? >> guest: well, i am reading quite a lot about fdr, franklin roosevelt, because my publishers have suggested that i might like to write a short biography of him. which is a difficult thing to do because he encompassed a remarkably wide-ranging life. but it's a possibility, so i'm reading about him. i'm also reading about lincoln because i may in the end decide to write a short biography of lincoln. i've just seen that remarkable film about him, and with daniel day lewis. and that seemed to me to stress some of the wrong things. i'd like to give my own version of events. so that's what i'm reading, too, at the moment. >> host: very quickly, what were one of those wrong events that you saw in the movie "lincoln" that you'd like to -- >> guest: well, i think it presented the white house as a sort of messy place with jumbles of papers and things all over the place. i don't think it was like that at all. i think it was a very neat and orderly place because linc

continues to tap into an unprecedented meant and energized by people like congressman ron paul and governor gary johnson more and more americans to train the libertarian ideals to tackle everything from government spending and comprehensive tax reforms all the way to protection of civil liberties so here to talk about third parties libertarianism and whether this philosophy can really break the mold on some of today's most important issues i'm joined now by governor gary johnson a former presidential candidate in the libertarian party they are coming out every day as he's going to do you know yes so are we aren't the majority of americans classically liberal the notion that we're all fiscally responsible and socially tolerant and i don't want to use you're intolerant of you're going to hear me she's essentially an exhibitor i hate to use the word tolerant because that somehow implies that i don't agree with your lifestyle i really don't care what you do with your life as long as it doesn't adversely affect mine and if you're going to do harm to me then that's where government has you know it seemed this

continues to tap into an unprecedented to menton energized by people like congressman ron paul and governor gary johnson more and more americans turning the libertarian ideals to tackle everything from government spending and comprehensive tax reforms all the way to protection of some. the liberties so here to talk about third parties libertarianism and whether this philosophy can really break the mold on some of today's most important issues i'm joined now by governor gary johnson a former presidential candidate in the libertarian party they are coming on how do you mean he's going to be where you know you. are we aren't the majority of americans classically liberal the notion that we're all fiscally responsible and socially tolerant and i don't want to use you're intolerant of you're going to hear me she's essentially an eccentric i hate to use the word tolerant because that somehow implies that i don't agree with your lifestyle i really don't care what you do with your life as long as it doesn't adversely affect mine and if you're going to do harm to me then that's where government has you know it se

governor johnson, what do you think of the idea of ted cruz, rand paul, et cetera saying it doesn't matterwe are going to shut it down to get writ of obamacare and the other republicans saying are you nuts? we're not going to get rid of obamacare and we're going to destroy the popularity of the republican party. >> as governor of new mexico, there were many instances where i did what i thought was right, and it went to court and the supreme court you determined that what i did, i could not do administratively. i do not believe that this can be done through defunding. you can't do it. this has to be a change in the law. do i believe that we should balance the federal budget? yes. should we shut down government to potentially balance the federal budget? yes, i think we should. i don't think it should be tied to obamacare. i'm in the camp that really believes that we are going to come to a man atory collapse and when the dollars we have don't buy a thing, because of the accompanies inflation that is going to go along with printing money to the tune of 30 cents out of every dollar that we spen

they turned to mcgovern in '72 after kennedy, johnson and humphrey and after mccain and romney the inevitable steam vent is rand pauli just think rand paul fundamentally is to the right of the base. i think that his views are too extreme for the base. the base of the republican party is older people who are worried about their health care and worried about their social security and aren't really going to like some of the stuff he talks about. >> assuming that stuff actually makes its way into the actual debate, mitt romney had positions, paul ryan had positions that never got aired on the national stage. >> that's true. paul ryan changed his position. >> as mitt romney did as well. josh, one last bit. rand paul versus ron paul. relationship between father and son. do you have insight? >> rand paul doesn't like to talk about it. one of the questions i had in the interview was for people who only know of you as ron paul's son, how would you describe the differences? he bristled a bit. i have my own record in judgment. that's how we got into the government he would like to dice and slice. there is political danger in b

i heard the same thing in florida, rubio, or rand paul or mike lee, or wisconsin with ron johnson.ou've heard the names. [applause] we haven't won the battle but one thing i saw is when they say it's impossible it's a good time to go to work because i think it really is possible to change things. and the same people told me that there's no way you couldr get rid of this favor factory of earmarks in washington. it could never happen. republicans, democrats, love to take home the bacon. that's why you stay for 30 years because senior members get to take home the most bacon. we couldn't change it. i had a resolution in my conference in 2008 to ban earmarks and i got five votes and a lot of dirty looks and lectures and things. but we took the case to the american people. we talked about bridges to nowhere. we talked about the waste and the fraud and the abuse. to the point where 75% of americans thought we should get rid of these things even though sometimes it benefited their state or congressional districts. and what happened? the politics followed. you had pele 2010 running on a ple