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. >> schifrin: paul younders, have 18 countries responding, 60 diplomats from russia kied out today.l russia get the message? >> well, look, h russia gotten the message from the previous steps we've taken in so far it looks like, no. the obama administration imposed a variety of sanctions on russia after russia's annexation of crimea and its interference in eaern ukraine. the trump administration, the congress, there have been a variety of adick additional mea. russia doesn't seem to be getting the message. then there's the question of is that somlething unique reated to russia that prevents them from getting the message, or do we need to thi nk ourselvesittle bit more about our policies about the message that we're trying to send, how clear strks how strong is it, how effective is it. >> schifrin: victoria, is the message strong eugh to deter russia from doing something like this again or changing russian behavior? >> kicking out 60 members of the russian staff in the united a stat closing another one of their consulates effectively lomatic they have no dip presence on the u.s. coas

ki kiev according to sources close to the investigation. what could they know? >> reporter: they believe they could have information valuable beyond business partner paul manafort who is also the campaign chairman. one of the things sources were telling my colleague, caitlyn, in the run youp of rick gates plea deal meeting with prosecutors from mueller's team. look, we don't need your cooperation. what we want is for you to help us with our core mission between investigating russians. and gates was in interesting position to do that. not only right hand man throughout the cam pin and summer of 2016 when there was a meeting with the returns at trump tower, but stayed on the campaign even after paul manafort was ousted and tin continued to work on the auction with one of the president's close friends tom barack. >> close friends with president hand manafort. so all of these ties crucial. how did this all this unfold, sarah? >> reporter: it's interesting it came out to light. you would expect it's coming up in the gates case. it's not. it's coming out in another lawyer worked for gates in the sentencing because he has pleaded gil pleaded guilty to special counsel

. >> put paul aside, "wall street journal," same story >> greet this does, you promised us this wasn't going to happen yet it did >> you don't see good things happening. >> kiichael >> go ahead. >> a good thing that's happening is that we have increased the after tax reward for business investment >> that will increase wages. we should not expect to see it increase wages this quarter because it takes longer than a couple of monthss to add in the capital stock in a way that actually increases productivity and wages. so this whole conversation needs tore a longer-term focus did some companies have a pr move oral truism or generosity sure, of course. >> is that greet it is >> and buy back your own shares. >> now they said it was a pr move >> there are some buy backs, for sure >> that's what's happening >> my.is the that the theory of how a corporate tax cut will increase wages plays out over a long time. having a longer term horizon on this, so both the people that say it won't happen are wrong the people who are saying it's happened are wrong >> did your president in chicago, did he go against your advice on letting conservatives speak there? did you try to t