[inaudible] >> i have so many peered to her three years ago paul kildee wrote a book, arguing that exactly the kind of results in terms of movement will not happen in this country until you have a much bigger crisis, such as 2008 resource shortages, crises of terrible materials, which delegitimize his system and brings those forces. to make it happen, things need to break down more as it exists. that is one scenario, yet optimistic on the other side. >> okay, if you could answer all of those and then give us our marching orders going forward, we would appreciate that. >> well, this election is enormously important and i think that what is their position in an earlier election didn't matter between the parties. you know, it's very wrong about the current situation in which we find ourselves in the election. so in that sense, i think that you have to hope for a good outcome in this election. i think there's a huge difference between the candidates. that said, as i mentioned earlier, i now see any real embrace of the questions facing countries and i'm extremely -- despite ringing the climate