. >> host: paul kirby is here joining in the requesting. >> host: thank you. >> guest: hello, paul be. >> host: regarding net neutrality the chairman has stressed the point that the fcc will realize that wireless and wire line networks are technologically different. so in adopting rules, it will recognize that. so as long as it does, why is it a bad thing that it applies those rules to the wireless effort? >> guest: that's a great point that i first made with the chairman and his staff, and i'm glad he recognizes it. what it says to me is that we should be thoughtful about how we apply them to wireless. it is different, spectrum is limited in wireless, and we should be thoughtful about putting rules in place that encourage people to conserve this very valuable resource which is what spectrum is. and so those kind of details, you know, it's always the devil is in the details, but just the fact that there's that recognition is encouraging on part of the commission. but i think until we see the final rulings, we won't be able to tell whether we have any concerns about them or not. >> hos

. >> our guest is ralph de la vega, paul kirby of telecommunications reports is our guest reporter.just take a minute and give us your background, it is rather interesting. you is just give us your professional and personal background, and you have also just authored a book. >> i just authored a book called "obstacles welcome." it chronicles my life from the time i left cuba at the age of 10 years old. it was probably the most dramatic point in my entire life, because of opportunity and the persecution my family felt in cuba at the time as a result of the revolution. they decided to leave cuba. you can imagine how difficult it is to leave your native country. you can imagine how difficult they had to feel the situation was, to leave all your material possessions behind and move to another country to get freedom and opportunity that you felt would be lacking in your own. when we got to the airport, my parents were told that at that point time, only my papers were correct, that only i could leave that day. the family had to make a choice, we could all stay behind or they could sendñrç

. >> host: paul kirby is joining in the questioning. >> guest: thank you. regarding the neutrality the chairman has made a point of saying, really stress the point that the fcc will realize wireless and wireline network said different, technologic the difference so in adopting its rules it will realize that so as long as it realizes that, why is it a bad thing when it applies those rules to the wireless sector? >> guest: i think that is a great and important recognition point, a point that i personally made with the chairman and his staff. i am glad he recognizes it. what it says to me is that we should be thoughtful about how we apply them to wireless. it is different, spectrum is limited in wireless and so we should be thoughtful about putting rules in place that encourage people to preserve this very valuable resource, which is what spectrum is. so those kinds of details, that the-- devil is in the detail but just the fact that there is that recognition is encouraging on the part of the commission but i think until we seen the final rulings we will appea

paul kirby has been our guest reporter. of congressional quarterly. a senate majority leader,.com and baucus spoke to reporters after democrats met with reporters tonight but they didn't say anything to the substance of the caucus. what happened during a meeting? >> they didn't say anything at all. that was very newsworthy unfortunately and they appointed the avoided account of really onto virtual subjects notably what happened in the public option in this health bill. we're told by other senators who attended the meeting that during this meeting they talked about the state of the house bill and the state of this very important issue to liberals, the public option as well as a second policy that some democrats have proposed to replace the public option. this policy would allow seniors or not seniors people age 55 to 64 to buy into medicare. some democrats are proposing is is replacing for the public option figure and it's more acceptable to moderates. >> what was the decision about that? >> it looks like both ideas are out of the bill. the public opti