. >> host: i want to introduce as well paul kirby, senior editor of telecommunications reports, who is joining our conversation. we'll turn it over to him in just a minute, but i want to read one sentence from your book "the comeback." you write that industry has been hurt by the well-meaning efforts of the federal government to help the economy. >> guest: absolutely. i think ivan of verizon gave a very seminal speech a few months ago when he said with the challenges our government is not exactly helping business. when you, when you use the phrase greed in conjunction with the word business almost all the time and you demonize business as has happened for the past two years -- because of a few bad apples -- it sends the wrong message to the public, and can it's a matter of leadership. and if you have policies, look, we've had two unwinnable wars, stimulus packages, corporate bailouts, medicaid, medicare, social security, cash for clunkers, all we've done is spent. we have totally spent so much money, and any business person knows that is totally unsustainable, and the next generation i