charlie it's interesting, paul krugman, you know paul krugman, you've probably talked to him all the and political advice. >> oh, yes. larry: so krugman -- >> we hang out together at the bar. larry: i figured. [laughter] krugman in "the new york times" writes a column called the mystery of white rural rage, okay? now, this is wonderful. michael goodwin of the missouri post wrote this terrific -- of the new york post wrote this the terrific column. white rural or rage is arguably the single greatest threat facing american democracy, according to drug match. this has a feel to it of hillary clinton's deplorables. nikki haley didn't understand -- stuff like the border catastrophe, the lack of law and order, the poor economic performance as katie said, you're not better, you're worse off than you were three, four years ago. keeping peace around the world. none of that matters. it's all white rural rage. that's what krugman says. what do you make of that, charlie? >> well, of course, paul krugman is a huckster himself, and he doesn't know anything about rural america. i don't think he woul

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paul krugman released a piece in the "new york times" yesterday. >> brian: always so blend paul krugman. >> lawrence: why are americans still down on the economy? and essentially he says that things were so bad under donald trump, the economy wasn't really that good. that covid was so bad and everything. answered he just doesn't understand it and it just doesn't go with the numbers. and i'm sure this is what the commander-in-chief is reading every day. >> ainsley: also talking at the top of that about democrats twisting the words the bloodbath comment when he was talking about the auto industry. last night on show's show he did a montage. remember he was on yesterday teasing he was going to do this. he found 11 clips from msnbc and cnn of democrats and hosts using the word "bloodbath" when they were talking about a donald trump win in the past elections. they used the same word answered did the montage. i think you are going to use it during a segment. >> brian: common term in economics. in the stock market. it's a bloodbath down there on wall street. it's a common term it's a bloodbath

paul krugman writes a thing how bad the rural white people are, that is what donald trump -- no it'sng these policies and that's the new coalition trump is building? >> yeah. i mean i think, the analogy which i had been using was jimmy carter which was a race i was involved with on reagan's side and carter had very similar problems but as we watched this sink in i think with "the new york times" poll, i think the analogy may be herbert hoover. what you're seeing is a 92-year-old coalition falling apart in a way that they can't put back together. remember, bill:town, who was a great, great politician, realized when we won in '94 that he had to change. so he comes to the state of the union, i'm sitting behind him, i'm the host as speaker. he gets up and he says the era of big government is over. of course you have to stand and applaud it. there i am applauding bill clinton. the idea this coming thursday night joe biden is going to say anything comparable to that is laughable. these guys are stuck. they actually have no idea what is going on in the real world, and they think couple good

. >> paul krugman, it's really, really great to have you. thank you so much. an interesting disconnect but one i think you've explained well. it's more about partisanship, the culture wars. thank you so much for being here. appreciate your time. >> thanks for having me on. >> and that's going to do it for me today. "deadline white house" starts right now. >>> hi, everyone. it is 4:00 in new york. i'm ayman mohyeldin in for nicolle wallace. as we come on the air we're following growing questions about the federal judge seeing one of the expresident's twice indicted, highly classified documents in bathroom and the ballroom down at mar-a-lago. and federal judge aileen cannon, the trump appointed lawyer who came to this case with only three years on the bench and with very little experience in running criminal trials. cannon whose rulings in the case so far have repeatedly drawn scrutiny and reversals and rebukes by higher courts. and now judge cannon is under fire once again for what "the washington post" diplomatically calls, quote, an unusual order regarding ju