to talk to my guest paul mcclary senior editor of defense technology international magazine paul mccleary welcome to the kaiser report thanks so much paul mcclary you recently wrote a blog post and titled arctic arms race while the world is focused on the conflicts in the middle east tell us about the race to secure the arctic who are the players what are their motives well the arctic due to global warming and the treat of the ice pack all the arctic eight nations all the nations with with territory in arctic have made some noise over the past few years about increasing the defense posture in the arctic regions united states canada russia denmark iceland sweden norway and finland of all in the past two or three years actually written in their latest defense papers about the need to secure their arctic territories all right so we're talking about the arctic eight a eight this is a new a new group not to be confused with the g twenty the g seven the g two or any of the other big groups this is the arctic eight now what sort of arms are we talking about what hardware is being developed and h