and paul mcnulty, he served as deputy attorney general in the george w.h administration and before that served ases sprson for attorney general barr during the firstis bush admation. we thank you both for being with us. i want to ask you, first, sed on what know, both sides are drawing their own conclusions about this very briefummary from the attorney general of the mueller report. what do you make of this, neal katyal? >> well, i think you're right, it's a brief summary but a very troubling sumplet i think the dmost important thing his is what i wrote about in today's"n york times" is barr's conclusion about obstruction of justice. remember, mueller spent 22 monti investigating s. he didn't reach a conclusion, he laid out in his reidrt the ce from both sides, presumably for congress to, evaluad then the attorney general goes in and swoops in, within 48 hours, and says, oh, i decided there's no obstruction of justice here, there's not enough evidence andhen maybe harkining back to his 19-page memo from the summer st year, who knows, but this raises far m