beenar bernard project, whea paul mitchell school, or any other company i'm involved with, take carepend on the government which will goof up everyone, and ruin us. >> john always good to see you, we're still heading him up there are more of us than him. anyway, you still think we -- no matter what that gentlemen said, get ready for backdoor bailout that might already be on automatic pilot. people think i'm trash. but they're wrong. today i'm just an aluminum can. but one day, i could be a stadium. neil: we won't bail you out, but that does not mean we can't help you out, the near 20,000 pen pensioners underwater, they are plopped into health care exchanges, detroit is off the hook, and you america get the bill. is that right? >> you are right, talk about unintended consequences detroit poised to push $5.6 billion to federal budget my concern is to the domino effect. we talk about detroit 5.6 billion, but 61 of largest cities, across the country, have you retiree health benefits that total $126 billion, 96 of which unfunded right now, we could be talking about 10 times what we're see