what paul patterson said about that was that it was shameful and appalling that the witness statementsat was going on with the system. he also talked about the quality of the day said that was being presented in those court cases. let me give you a real—life example. lee castleton was wrongly accused of stealing £26,000 and he went to court and was bankrupted because he ended up having to spend £300,000 in legal fees. what mr paterson said today was that the data presented by fujitsu in court was knocked a gold standard, not any standard, it's a very simple excel file which tells you not very much at all. so what he is essentially saying is that the data that was presented that led to lee castleton being bankrupted wasn't up to scratch, so it really wasn't up to scratch, so it really was a remarkable morning of evidence from paul patterson. the other thing that he talked about was an acknowledgement really that the knowledge of these errors, these bugs was known by fujitsu right from the very start, 1999, so for more than two decades. he also said that information about those bugs was

paul patterson, basically the — are truly sorry.aul patterson, basically the head of fujitsu in | basically the head of fujitsu in europe. live it to our employment correspondence sally conway outside the inquiry in central london. it is going to be a tough grilling for paul patterson. perhaps you could explain the relevance of what he is going to say in his evidence. i think we can expect a very detailed interrogation this morning. he is due to appear in just a few minutes' time. the reason why his evidence is so significant is because fujitsu played a central role in the post office scandal. 0ver played a central role in the post office scandal. over the years, over 0ffice scandal. over the years, over several years, 0ffice scandal. over the years, over severalyears, fujitsu 0ffice scandal. over the years, over several years, fujitsu employees were giving evidence in court cases that resulted in sub—postmasters going to prison. what we have been hearing at this inquiry over the last few days is that whilst fujitsu employees were s

paul patterson suggested he would sit i patterson suggested he would sit down with the government afteris inquiry completes next year, saying that it is up to the inquiry to apportion blame and then they would negotiate some sort of settlement to contribute towards the £1 billion bill of compensation which is currently being borne by the taxpayer. now we don't know how much. there is no figure that has been placed on it and the post office, backed by the government, 0ffice, backed by the government, has potentially given up some of that leveraged that it had by waiting so long to get to the bottom of this scandal. litigation experts earlier this week said they believe that the six year time out period has probably passed and so the government will be relying on the fact that it is such an important customer of fujitsu's, with £7 billion by the contract over the last ten years, it will look to the japanese company to want to keep on the right side of ministers... 50m; the right side of ministers... sorry to interruot _ the right side of ministers... sorry to interrupt you. _ the right si

it was striking. just how damning paul patterson - around that.king. just | how damning paul patterson was around that. it was striking. just - how damning paul patterson was about the behaviour of fujitsu employees. because those staff members, for years were giving evidence in court cases that led to sub—postmasters going to prison. in their witness statements they were saying that the horizon software system was operating properly, when in fact, behind—the—scenes, fujitsu staff knew that there were errors, bugs and flaws in the system. what he was calling appalling and shameful is the fact that was completely missing from those statements. that they were in fact, false statements. the other thing that he got into at this inquiry was about the quality of the data. that was provided by fujitsu in those court cases. he was asked whether the data was gold standard. he said, "it's not gold standard, it's not any standard". he referred to one case in particular because it is important to humanise this will stop lee castleton and former sub—postmaster

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yes, paul patterson, earlier giving — affected?fected? yes, paul patterson, earlier giving testimony to - affected? yes, paul patterson, l earlier giving testimony to mps, said there is a moral obligation to give compensation, to support a's conversation of fund, but this inquiry is due to take evidence until the end of the year, so the idea of how much money fujitsu is going to put on the table, that's not going to become clear until next year. we not going to become clear until next ear. ~ .., not going to become clear until next ear, ~ ., not going to become clear until next ear. . .,, ., not going to become clear until next ear. ~ .., ., , ., ., year. we can go straight to the inuui year. we can go straight to the inquiry listening. _ year. we can go straight to the inquiry listening. mr— year. we can go straight to the| inquiry listening. mr patterson, year. we can go straight to the - inquiry listening. mr patterson, you have exolained _ inquiry listening. mr patterson, you have explained this _ inquiry listening. mr patterso

paul patterson, the. not stand up to that. - paul patterson, the director of fujitsu europe.al element of the case. when do you think post office staff first knew that remote access to horizon terminals was possible? i horizon terminals was possible? i could not give you an exact date on that _ could not give you an exact date on that. ., , ., , ., ., that. that question is fundamental to this case- _ that. that question is fundamental to this case. what _ that. that question is fundamental to this case. what is _ that. that question is fundamental to this case. what is fundamentall to this case. what is fundamental from our perspective _ to this case. what is fundamental from our perspective is, - to this case. what is fundamental from our perspective is, we - to this case. what is fundamental from our perspective is, we are l from our perspective is, we are facilitating _ from our perspective is, we are facilitating sir wyn getting to the bottom _ facilitating sir wyn getting to the bottom of these issues. how long have ou bottom of these issues. how long have you been — bo

now, paul patterson was asked about that and he said something very striking. no mention of the problems with the software system were made in the statements, and he said that all of the evidence should have been put in front of the sub postmasters who were being prosecuted because, as you say, hundreds of people were convicted by the post office and it was based on this evidence. the other thing that we have been hearing, just in the last few minutes, is notjust that these statements were untrue, but we have also been hearing that the data that was being introduced into those court cases wasn't actually good enough, so it has been a very interesting, very revealing evidence session this morning. zoe, thank you for that update. i know you will keep us posted on any developments. zoe conway, live outside of that inquiry. a reminder that the bbc news website has a life page up and running looking at all of the testimony that comes out of that inquiry and some of the insight into the implications it has for those who are caught up in the scandal. as you can see th

paul patterson from fujitsu, which has stayed largely silent until now.e began. fujitsu would like to apologise for our part in this appalling miscarriage of justice. we were involved from the very start. we did have bugs and errors in the system, and we did help the post office in their prosecutions. he admitted there were problems when the software was rolled out, and that the post office was told. did we take that information and share it with the post office? yes, we did. how the post office then chose to use that information in their prosecutions is entirely on the post office's side. but he didn't answer some of the key questions. you knew that there were glitches in the system. why did you sit back and do absolutely nothing about it? i don't know. i really don't know. and, on a personal level, i wish i did know. and then there is the bill for compensation. is there a moral obligation, mr patterson, for you to contribute? i think there is a moral obligation for the company to contribute, and i think the right place to determine that is when our resp

paul patterson admitted there were problems with the horizon computer system spanning two decades. deployment of this system, there were bugs and errors and defects which were well—known, to all parties. but these issues remained hidden from the courts in the post office action against sub—postmasters. i'm surprised that that detail was not included in the witness statements given by fujitsu staff to the post office, and i have seen some evidence of editing of witness statements by others. no doubt you would regard that as shameful? iwould... yes, that would be one word i would use. what's the other one? shameful, appalling. my understanding of how our laws work in this country, that all of the evidence should have been put in front of the sub—postmaster. the inquiry heard last month post office lawyers and investigators had rewritten witness statements. today, they also looked at some of the bugs. one big one, calendar square, created duplicate transactions and it took fujitsu more than five years to fix it. fujitsu was also under contract to provide transaction data to the post o

paul patterson admitted there were problems with the horizon computer system spanning two decades.deployment of this system, there were bugs and errors and defects which were well—known to all parties. but these issues remained hidden from the courts in the post office action against sub—postmasters. i�*m surprised that that detail was not included in the witness statements given by fujitsu staff to the post office, and i have seen some evidence of editing of witness statements by others. no doubt you would regard that as shameful? iwould... yes, that would be one word i would use. what's the other one? shameful, appalling. my understanding of how our laws work in this country, that all of the evidence should have been put in front of the sub—postmaster. the inquiry heard last month that post office lawyers and investigators had rewritten witness statements. today, they also looked at some of the bugs, one big one, calendar square, created duplicate transactions and it took fujitsu more than five years to fix it. fujitsu was also under contract to provide transaction data to the po

paul patterson from fujitsu, which has stayed largely silent until now.tion, mr patterson, for you to contribute? i think there is a moral obligation for the company to contribute. for the company to contribute, and i think the right place to determine that is when our responsibility is very clear. he confirmed there were problems from the start and the post office was told. did we take that information and share it with the post office? yes, we did. how the post office then chose to use that information in their prosecutions is entirely on the post office�*s side. but he was less clear about what fujitsu knew and when. you knew that there was glitches in the system. why did you sit back and do absolutely nothing about it? i don�*t know. i really don�*t know. and on a personal level, i wish i did know. questions, too, for the ceo of the post office, nick reid, who started in 2019. have you seen any evidence that post office executives misled the courts at any stage? i�*ve seen any evidence, no. have you seen any evidence that post office ministers misled

paul patterson, head of fujitsu in europe, says that the company has a moral duty to compensate britishcted because of flaws in its software. next — roma have sacked their managerjose mourinho in what was the 60—year—old's tenth full time role as a manager. the club have parted ways with him after a poor run of form, winning only one of their last six serie a games. the former roma captain will replace him. and time now to leave you with 10 seconds of a deer prancing around in the snow in a garden in ayr as it is sweeping across parts of the uk. the deer was spotted in jackie's garden and she said, "as you can imagine, it was a really beautiful surprise." you're all caught up now. see you later. hello and welcome to sportsday with me, marc edwards. the date is set for a hearing into manchester city's alleged breaches of financial rules. saudi arabia avoid an upset as they see off 0man in the asian cup. rugby bombshell as rees zammit quits the sport to try to fulfill his nfl dreams. welcome to sportsday. the premier league chief executive, richard masters, says a date has been set for th

paul patterson dared the _ of your witness statement. ose computer glitches, what the obligation was a fujitsu to inform the post office, and to what extent those glitches may have caused the underlying problem that postmasters and post—mistresses were being registered as having taken money is that they had not taken, and also to what extent that evidence was appearing in court and there do seem to be some inconsistencies there. this questioning is going to continue. it is essential to understanding what went wrong at the post office. let's now turn to another uk story, tata steel. you are life with bbc news. at the —— boeing 7478 cargo plane has had to make an emergency landing at miami international airport late on thursday. you can see this video posted online shows flames coming out of the left wing of the aircraft whilst in flight. it was on its way to sanjuan in puerto rico from miami international airport. to sanjuan in puerto rico from miami internationalairport. no miami international airport. no injuries miami internationalairpo

paul patterson admitted there were problems with the horizon computer system spanning two decades.ployment of this system, there were bugs and errors and defects which were well—known to all parties. but these issues remained hidden from the courts in the post office action against sub—postmasters. i'm surprised that that detail was not included in the witness statements given by fujitsu staff to the post office, and i have seen some evidence of editing of witness statements by others. no doubt you would regard that as shameful? iwould... yes, that would be one word i would use. what's the other one? shameful, appalling. my understanding of how our laws work in this country, that all of the evidence should have been put in front of the sub—postmaster. the inquiry heard last month that post office lawyers and investigators had rewritten witness statements. today, they also looked at some of the bugs, one big one, calendar square, created duplicate transactions and it took fujitsu more than five years to fix it. fujitsu was also under contract to provide transaction data to the post

huge interest, because the company behind the faulty software is finally talking — paul patterson fromnow. fujitsu would like to apologise for our part in this appalling miscarriage of justice. we were involved from the very start. we did have bugs and errors in the system, and we did help the post office in their prosecutions. and then there's the bill for compensation. is there a moral obligation, mr patterson, for you to contribute? i think there is a moral obligation for the company to contribute, and i think the right place to determine that is when our responsibility is very clear. he confirmed there were problems from the start and the post office was told. did we take that information and share it with the post office? yes, we did. how the post office then chose to use that information in their prosecutions is entirely on the post office's side. but he was less clear about what fujitsu knew and when. you knew that there was glitches in the system. why did you sit back and do absolutely nothing about it? i don't know. i really don't know. and on a personal level, i wish i did kn

paul patterson, head of fujitsu in europe, says that the company has a moral duty to compensate british its software. next — rome have sacked their managerjose mourinho in what was the 60—year—old�*s tenth full time role as a manager. the club have parted ways with him after a poor run of form, winning only one of their last six serie a games. the former captain will replace him. and time now to leave you with 10 seconds of a deer prancing around in the snow in a garden in ayr as it is sweeping across parts of the uk. the deer was spotted in jackie�*s parts of the uk. the deer was spotted injackie�*s garden and she said, "as you can imagine, it was a really beautiful surprise." you�*re all caught up now. see you later. the art of good conversation is to say the right thing at the right time and in the right way. you have to be original, sympathetic, encouraging, and also keep an open mind. and you really dojust need also keep an open mind. and you really do just need to sit back and listen. influential with me katty kay. watch on bbc iplayer. hello and welcome to sportsday with me, marc

paul patterson, who's head of fujitsu in europe, says that the company has a moral duty to compensatevicted because of flaws in its software. next, roma have sacked their manager, jose mourinho, in what was the 60—year—old's 10th full—time role as a manager. the club have parted ways with him after a poor run of form, winning only one of their last six serie a games. former roma captain daniele de rossi will replace him. time now to leave you with 10 seconds of a deer prancing around in the snow, in a garden as it sweeping across parts of the uk right now. the deer was spotted in jackie's garden and she said, as you can imagine, it was a really beautiful surprise. you're all caught up now. see you later. hello, i'm mark edwards. welcome to sports day. here's what's coming up on our show. the date is set for a hearing into manchester city's alleged breaches of financial rules. saudi arabia avoid an upset as they see off 0man in the asian cup. rugby bombshell as rees—zammit quits the sport to try to fulfil his nfl dreams. thanks forjoining us on sports day. we start with football and th

paul patterson from fujitsu, which has stayed largely silent until now.his appalling miscarriage ofjustice. we were involved from the very start. we did have bugs and errors in the system, and we did help the post office in their prosecutions. and then there's the bill for compensation. is there a moral obligation, mr patterson, for you to contribute? i think there is a moral obligation for the company to contribute. and i think the right place to determine that is when our responsibility is very clear. he confirmed there were problems from the start and the post office was told. did we take that information and share it with the post office? yes, we did. how the post office then chose to use that information in their prosecutions is entirely on the post office's side. but he was less clear about what fujitsu knew and when. you knew that there were glitches in the system — you knew that there were glitches in the system. why did you sit back and do absolutely nothing about it? i don't know. i really don't know. and on a personal level, i wish i did know.

answering mps' questions in a select committee session, paul patterson said the company had fallen belown" to contribute to compensation for the victims. fujitsu would like to apologise for our part in this appalling miscarriage of justice. we were involved from the very start, we did have bugs and errors in the system and we did help the post office in their prosecutions of the sub—postmasters. for that we are truly sorry. the bbc�*s mariko oi is in the studio with me. i hesitate and it so long for fujitsu to give an apology? brute i hesitate and it so long for fujitsu to give an apology? we don't know for sure _ fujitsu to give an apology? we don't know for sure but _ fujitsu to give an apology? we don't know for sure but there _ fujitsu to give an apology? we don't know for sure but there are - know for sure but there are several factors, firstly the crisis happened decades ago in the end of the executives we are hearing today were in charge at the time. but also from the japanese headquarters point of view because the software was developed by the british company, icl that fujitsu bo

just to give you a bit more of a background on paul patterson.fujitsu europe, been in that role since 2019. let's remember since 2019 a lot of all of this evidence has come to light, convictions have been overturned of sub—postmasters, and an awful lot has happened since he took over. but also he's been at fujitsu for 1h years. so it's not like he's going to be able to say this morning i've onlyjust to be able to say this morning i've only just arrived at this company. one of the things he was asked about in the house of commons was about theissue in the house of commons was about the issue of compensation. what the company is saying is that they will contribute towards a compensation fund. but they are not saying how much. we are unlikely to know any figure until the end of this inquiry which is set to run until the end of this year. which is set to run until the end of this ear. ~ _, , , ., this year. with the comments you auoted this year. with the comments you quoted from _ this year. with the comments you quoted from a _ this year. with the

let's have a little look at what paul patterson had to say. shall we?ow, i really don't know. and um, on a personal level , i wish know. and um, on a personal level, i wish i did know , um, level, i wish i did know, um, following my appointment in 2019, i've looked back on those situations for the company and the evidence i've seen and i just don't know what i do know is the inquiry is looking at this very point of who knew what and when and what action they did or did not to take draw attention to the, uh, to the concerns. i just don't know . obe concerns. i just don't know. obe let's remember that scene from fawlty towers where manuel because i know nothing . because i know nothing. >> this guy is a witness at a post office inquiry, and he's saying, i don't know, it's just not good enough . not good enough. >> and in fact, we now know that fujitsu, back in 1999, before the system was first installed, did know that the system was faulty. did know that it was full of bugs, did know that it was a piece of something i can't say. and concerns were raised a

answering mps�* questions in a select committee session, paul patterson said the company had fallen belowo contribute to compensation for the victims. fujitsu would like to apologise for our part in this appalling miscarriage of justice. we were involved from the very start, we did have bugs and errors in the system and we did help the post office in their prosecutions of the sub—postmasters. for that we are truly sorry. the bbc�*s mariko oi is in the studio with me. mariko, why has it take so long for an apology? we won't know for sure but there are several factors that could have contributed to this delay in apologising. firstly, all of the executives we are hearing from today, because the scandal happened decades ago, none were in charge of fujitsu at the time. from the japanese headquarters point of view, because the software was developed by his icl, the british company that fujitsu took over back in the 1990s, it appears that not many injapan were aware of all of the convictions at the time including when we spoke to a former president of the japanese headquarters two years ago. he

the company's europe chief executive, paul patterson.d, and admitting it provided evidence to the post office to prosecute hundreds of innocent sub—postmasters. iam i am personally appalled by the evidence that i have seen and what i saw on the television drama and the statements i've seen from the victims to the inquiry so we did not stand up to that in those periods of time. he said, "i think there is a moral obligation" for the company to contribute to the compensation for those wrongly accused. and he said fujitsu was aware there were bugs, errors and defects in the horizon it system from early on after its rollout in 1999. he also made clear that the company told the post office that its accounts could be altered remotely ? something the post office denied at the time. a moment that is likely to have angered some of those wrongly convicted was when mr patterson was asked why fujitsu didn't do anything about glitches in the horizon system when the company knew about them. he said, "i don't know. i really don't know." he said, "on a p

we will keep you up—to—date with paul patterson and what he has to say to the inquiry but we have somethat person who is a member of that community, thought very quickly, they kept the baby warm until specialist paramedics arrived and took the baby to an east london hospital. the police say that no matter what the circumstances are of the mother they want her to know that her little baby daughter is safe, well and being cared for. they say that whatever your circumstances to the mother, and in fact if she is watching our police would like her to call 999 two seeks an urgent support. whatever the circumstances there will be concerns for the mother's health, there will be concerned to check that she is fit and well. and of course they will be eager to understand what has happened, what led up to this. but the priorities for the medical care of the newborn baby who is doing well at the moment and the mother. sean, thanks very much indeed. we will keep you up—to—date with that. meanwhile, let's go back to the post office inquiry and here a little bit more from paul patterson, the head of f

nick read, chief executive of the post office, and paul patterson, europe director at fujitsu, are boththey will be grilled by politicians. a lot more on that in 20 minutes when we look in detail at fujitsu, the horizon software and what happens next. all that still to come. iranian—backed houthi rebels in yemen have confirmed that they carried out a ballistic missile strike on a us—owned cargo ship in the gulf of aden. the militants described the incident as a direct hit, and added that all us and british ships taking part in what they called the aggression against yemen would be targets. on monday, uk prime minister rishi sunakfaced mps for the first time since airstrikes launched on friday. here's our political editor chris mason. this is the ship, the gibraltar eagle, hit by a missile today off the coast of yemen. it sustained minimal damage and no one was injured. but it shows that even after those us and uk air strikes, the houthi attacks are continuing. i call the prime minister. in the commons this afternoon, rishi sunak said the uk decided to hit houthi targets late last week i

paul patterson admitted there were problems with the horizon computer system spanning two decades.oyment of this system, there were bugs and errors and defects which were well—known to all parties. but these issues remained hidden from the courts in the post office action against sub—postmasters. i'm surprised that that detail was not included in the witness statements given by fujitsu staff to the post office, and i have seen some evidence of editing of witness statements by others. no doubt you would regard that as shameful? iwould... yes, that would be one word i would use. what's the other one? shameful, appalling. my understanding of how our laws work in this country, that all of the evidence should have been put in front of the sub—postmaster. the inquiry heard last month that post office lawyers and investigators had rewritten witness statements. today, they also looked at some of the bugs, one big one, calendar square, created duplicate transactions and it took fujitsu more than five years to fix it. fujitsu was also under contract to provide transaction data to the post of

paul patterson apologised for its part in the scandal, and said that the company had a "moral obligationion for the victims. here's our business correspondent, marc ashdown. no one ever says sorry, not in the way i would like to see sorry. former postmistressjo hamilton centre stage today, giving evidence to mps about how she was wrongly convicted for stealing £36,000 from her village post office, her life ruined. it just makes you so angry that they literally gaslit me for about three years and turned me not into a basket case but pretty much. i know a lot of the group and they are literally falling apart waiting for the end of this, for them to put it behind them. the business and trade select committee is hearing from all of the main players in the post office scandal, their remit to ensure full, fair and fast compensation for more than 700 innocent victims. prove that i am wrong and you are right. alan bates, the main character in the itv drama, who launched the campaign asked today why it took so long for more people to push back. a lot of people feel there is a financial gun held t

answering mp questions in a select committee session, paul patterson said the company had fallen belowon to contribute to compensation for the victims. fujitsu would like to apologise for our part in this appalling miscarriage ofjustice. we were involved from the very start. we did have bugs and errors in the system. and we did help the post office in their prosecutions of the postmasters. forthat, prosecutions of the postmasters. for that, we are truly sorry. mariko oijoins mariko oi joins me. this isn't the first apology by why has something more forthcoming not happened until now? it’s happened until now? it's difficult to _ happened until now? it's difficult to answer, - happened until now? it�*s difficult to answer, you know, we probably won't ever know, but there could be several reasons for this. firstly, those executives that we're hearing from today, they weren't in charge of fujitsu at the time of the scandal because it obviously happened decades ago, but also from the japanese headquarters point of view, the software was actually developed by the british company icl, which f

fujitsu's european ceo paul patterson today offered an unreserved apology.ike to apologise for our part in this appalling miscarriage of justice. we were involved from the very start, we did have bugs and errors in the system and we did help the post office in their prosecutions of the sub—postmasters. for that we are truly sorry. mr patterson also accepted that the it giant now had to play its part in compensating the victims. i think there is a moral obligation for the company to contribute and i think the right place to determine that is when our responsibility is very clear. there are many parties involved in this travesty. the bbc has caught up with the global chief executive of fujitsu, takahito tokita at the world economic forum at davos in switzerland. he told the bbc that the company is sorry for the impact it has had on the postmasters and their families caught up in the horizon it scandal and that the company took the issue "very seriously". a bbc producer spoke to him as he walked between events at the swiss ski resort. would you like to apologis

the fujitsu europe director , the fujitsu europe director, paul patterson, came before the business andnd admitted culpability . yes he admitted culpability. yes he did, he said he was truly sorry for the glitches that had occurred within the system. he accepted that their evidence had been used in the prosecutions and he said that fujitsu would have a moral obligation to contribute to the £1 billion compensate nation scheme. well, of course they do. the argument folks i was making last week was that actually this could have happened an awful lot more quickly. let's listen to what he had to say earlier on today. >> we did have bugs and errors in the system, and we did help the post office in their prosecutions of the subpostmasters for that, we are truly sorry information on that was shared with the post office . was shared with the post office. um, as part of our contract with them was very clear . so the post them was very clear. so the post office also knew there were bugs and errors . well all at last and errors. well all at last some admission . some admission. >> but you know, a p

paul patterson apologised for its part in the scandal, and said — that the company had a "moral obligation sorry for the impact it had on the postmasters and their families impact it had on the postmasters and theirfamilies and impact it had on the postmasters and their families and insisted the company took the issue very seriously. a bb producer spoke to him. would you like to apologise? yes. — yes, of course. fujitsu has apologised. the impoact on their lives and that of their families. j what do you think about fujitsu giving the money back? the government suggested that you should return the money. we understand the ongoing public inquiry _ and so, i'm sorry, i cannot comment for your father about these topics. i —— further. the head of fujitsu talking to the bbc in davos. the ukrainian president has called for more western support for ukraine to ensure that russia does not prevail in the war. he said fighterjets were particularly needed to help bring about victory. speaking at the world economic forum in davos, president zelensky said that if vladimir putin won, the west would need t

paul patterson told the public inquiry this morning that he was "surprised" that details about bugs and weren't included in witness statements for criminal proceedings. he admitted that fujitsu was aware of the errors for nearly two decades, and said details about the vast majority of them had been shared with the post office at the time. our business correspondent theo leggett has the latest. it has been described as one of the biggest miscarriages ofjustice in uk history. hundreds of sub—postmasters were prosecuted after a flawed computer accounting system called horizon made it look as though money had gone missing from their branches. the system was made by it firm fujitsu. earlier this week, as european boss appeared before mps. —— its european boss. today, he faced questions from the official inquiry, and he started with another apology. to official inquiry, and he started with another apology.- with another apology. to the sub-postmasters _ with another apology. to the sub-postmasters and - with another apology. to the sub-postmasters and their. with another apology. to the - sub

paul patterson contribute.atterson apologised for the appalling miscarriage of justice when he appeared before mps yesterday . appeared before mps yesterday. hundreds of subpostmasters were convicted and wrongly accused of theft because of a fault in the it system . fujitsu is being it system. fujitsu is being asked to make an initial payment by the end of the month. undercover police officers are wearing luxury watches as part of an operation to catch out thieves. video released by the met police shows robbers trying to lure the officers into a false sense of security before trying to steal the items. other undercover officers then pounce at apprehending the criminals. two operations were carried out in wealthy london boroughs, leading to more than 20 convictions, and you can get more on all those stories by visiting our website at gb news. dot com. now it's back . to very dot com. now it's back. to very good morning . good morning. >> 934 put your phone down, mr pierce . do you see? that's pierce. do you see?

facing a second grilling of the week today is paul patterson, european director of fujitsu. the errors for nearly two decades, and said details about the vast majority of them had been shared with the post office at the time. we'rejoined now by seema misra, a former sub—post—mistress who was pregnant with her second child, when she was falsely convicted of theft and sent to jail in 2010. thank you so much for being with us. again, we spoke last week, you've been listening to today's evidence. i want to start with that acknowledgement — and we heard that european boss say it was shameful that witness accounts had been edited — what did you make when you heard that? it edited - what did you make when you heard that? . , , ~ �* , heard that? it was shocking, it's very shocking- _ heard that? it was shocking, it's very shocking. you _ heard that? it was shocking, it's very shocking. you know, - heard that? it was shocking, it's very shocking. you know, every| heard that? it was shocking, it's - very shocking. you know, every time when i come in, there's more and more shocking ne

appearing before mps on the business and trade committee, fujitsu director paul patterson began by apologisingir families. fujitsu would like to apologise for our part in this appalling miscarriage of justice. we were involved from the very start, we did have bugs and errors in the system and we did help the post office in their prosecutions of the sub—postmasters. for that, we are truly sorry. alongside him was nick read, the current chief executive of the post office. mps grew frustrated as he failed to answer questions on a crucial element of the case, saying instead that the information would be provided to the ongoing inquiry. when do you think post office staff first o'neill that remote access to horizon _ first o'neill that remote access to horizon terminals was possible. i horizon terminals was possible. couldn't horizon terminals was possible. i couldn't give you an exact date on that. ., , .. �* i. couldn't give you an exact date on that. ., , �* . , . that. you why can't you answer that cuestion? that. you why can't you answer that question? it — that. you why can't you answer that

facing a second grilling of the week today is paul patterson, european director of fujitsu, the technologyecades — and said details about the vast majority of them had been shared with the post office at the time. our business correspondent theo leggett has the latest. it has been described as one of the biggest miscarriages ofjustice in uk history. hundreds of sub—postmasters were prosecuted after a flawed computer accounting system called horizon made it look as though money had gone missing from their branches. the system was made by it firm fujitsu. earlier this week, its european boss appeared before mps. today, he faced questions from the official inquiry, and he started with another apology. to the sub—postmasters and their families, we apologise. fujitsu apologises and is sorry for our part in this appalling miscarriage ofjustice. today, mr patterson explained how the company had been aware of bugs and errors in the horizon system for more than two decades. there's lots of evidence of us informing the post office of that data we have just discussed, bugs and errors, and how those b

paul patterson is likely to be asked at the inquiry about the behaviour of fujitsu staff involved inis to prove that i'm not a thief, right? it must be a bug. it must be... lee castleton�*s story was told in the itv drama, mr bates vs the post office, and was portrayed by the actor, will mellor. he was left bankrupt after being wrongly accused of stealing £25,000. the inquiry was shown an e—mail on thursday, written by a fujitsu manager in 2006, where he called sub—postmaster lee castleton a nasty chap. how did you form that opinion? i don't know. i don't know why i wrote it. i apologise. what was being said within fujitsu that allowed you to form the opinion that he was a nasty man? nothing, i don't know. cheering. victory for some postmasters came in 2021 when their convictions were overturned but could justice have come so much sooner? perhaps the most important question of all is that asked by former sub—postmistress betty brown. how could you? why? just why, why, why? fujitsu admits it has a moral obligation to pay compensation but they won't say how much until after the inquiry

his name is paul patterson.e. >> have part to play and to >> have a part to play and to contribute to redress i contribute to the redress i think is the words that mr bates used the redress fund for the sub postmasters very much. >> lavery . >> mr lavery. >> mr lavery. >> uh thanks, chair. >> thanks. uh thanks, chair. >> thanks. uh thanks, chair. >> mr patterson, do you accept that the existence of a fujitsu call unit, as shown on the itv documentary, actually existed, whereby members of your team , whereby members of your team, um, were able to access support monsters? um computer systems in, in their own offices and were able to change data without subpostmaster subpostmasters uh, knowing that that had been done. >> i don't recognise the terms covert. i wasn't there, but it happened. >> was that was that happening? >> was that was that happening? >> so we have already stated that there was remote access to the system . is what took place the system. is what took place or did not took place in those interventio

he was chief, paul patterson.e was asked why did they not act when they knew there were glitches , they knew there were glitches, glitches in the system ? he says, glitches in the system? he says, i don't know, i really don't know. and he says on a personal level, i wish i did well. yes, that would be nice. >> i think i know why they didn't act. come on. i think it's probably quite probable that they hoped act. well, that they hoped that act. well, i think they thought acting i think they thought that acting would be expensive, time consuming and lose them contracts. and hey, it's only a few postmasters that might be affected by a by a few tens of thousands of pounds. so these bosses, what money is that ? bosses, what money is that? >> this is crucial when it comes to who's going to be paying all of compensation. i'd much of this compensation. i'd much rather was big corporation rather it was a big corporation than the taxpayer. >> absolutely . it's it >> yes, absolutely. it's it seems that it would be very inequi

heard from key figures involved in the post office scandal, including a fujitsu executive called paul patterson

we are hearing from paul patterson, the head of fujitsu in europe.uk. we let's join viewers in the uk. we are going to stay with her breaking news, which is that tata steel has just announced that 2800 employees are expected to be affected. we understand that this is to do with both of the blast furnaces in the uk's port talbot site are expected to be replaced with an electric version, so the news has been around for a day or so but it does seem that this announcement is coming now. they have been doing that to move towards more environmentally friendly steel production, but it does come with apple on job losses and we are now receiving that statement, 2800 employees are expected to be affected, out of which around 2500 roles would be affected in the next 18 months. so confirmation there from tata steel about those job losses. we bring in our business presenter now. we have been following the story, charlotte. some detail coming in on the numbers. so it is 2800, a little less than what we were expecting. we were expecting 3000, not a huge amount far

the mps in the committee, a little distance away from here in parliament, will be listening to paul pattersonf fujitsu. lots of people waiting to hear what that company has to say today. we are also hearing _ company has to say today. we are also hearing from _ company has to say today. we are also hearing from alan _ company has to say today. we are also hearing from alan bates, - company has to say today. we are also hearing from alan bates, the | also hearing from alan bates, the man at the centre of the tv drama but also set up the justice for sub postmasters alliance, which incorporates all of those who have been wrongly convicted. what time does he strike now, what is it he is looking for? he does he strike now, what is it he is looking for?— looking for? he is defiant. he led the original— looking for? he is defiant. he led the original legal— looking for? he is defiant. he led the original legal action - looking for? he is defiant. he led the original legal action against l the original legal action against the original legal action against the post office. his story is huge. a lot of

today at the post office inquiry, fujitsu's europe boss, paul patterson, said his staff knew of bugs in 2020, the scottish criminal cases review commission identified 73 potential victims, but surprisingly, and sadly, only 16 have come forward. and we know that there are others here and throughout the uk who were never prosecuted, but who lost everything — including their physical and mental health and, sometimes, theirfamily, and who are still paying the debts to either banks, or hmrc or other family members. tonight, we'rejoined by two former subpostmasters who were not prosecuted, but whose lives were devastated. louise dar ran a post office in lenzie, near glasgow, and peter worsfold ran one in inverness. they are both still in debt. when peter was given just a few hours to pay the post office the money they were demanding from him, he turned to his motherfor help. earlier today, newsnight spoke to her. he said, "they're coming in and they're taking the post office away," because, he said, "i'm worried that they'll take my children away." so i said, "no, they won't, peter, becaus

committee heard from key figures involved in the post office scandal, including fujitsu executive paul pattersonapologised and patterson, who apologised and admitted his company had a moral obugafion admitted his company had a moral obligation to contribute towards compensate victims . a people compensate victims. a people smuggler was jailed today for trying to bring a migrant into the uk by cramming her into the dashboard of his car. if you're watching on tv, take a look at this extraordinary image of a vietnamese woman seen wedged in a tiny , custom built hideaway a tiny, custom built hideaway behind a vauxhall vetra's glove box, border force officers searched the vehicle after noticing the carpet on the passenger side seemed a little out of place . 33 year old joseph out of place. 33 year old joseph balog , from slovakia, was balog, from slovakia, was sentenced to two and a half years in prison for assisting unlawful immigration at canterbury crown court today . canterbury crown court today. that's the news on gb news across the uk on tv, in your car, on digital radio and on your smart speake

heard from key figures involved in the post office scandal, including a fujitsu executive called paul patterson he apologised and patterson. he apologised and admitted his company had a moral obligation, as he put it to contribute towards compensating victims and the wrongly accused former postmaster and leader of the subpostmasters alliance , the subpostmasters alliance, alan bates, blamed red tape for delays to compensation payments . delays to compensation payments. the coldest january night in 14 years is hitting the uk tonight. temperatures in scotland are reaching as low, potentially as 15 degrees. sorry i should rephrase that. minus 15 degrees more than 100 schools were closed as well in scotland today, as the met office issued yellow warnings for snow and ice , including northern england and parts of wales. , including northern england and parts of wales . that's going to parts of wales. that's going to remain in place until midnight and overnight. remain in place until midnight and overnight . the met office and overnight. the met office saying a cold plunge of arctic air has moved sou