paul richards will be staying with us. we will be talking earnings with david ricks and later with chuck stevens, general motors executive vice president and cfo. live from new york, this is bloomberg. ♪ david: this is bloomberg. it is a big day on capitol hill today as john mccain returns for the first time since his diagnosis with brain cancer. he may be critical to republican efforts to bring a health care bill to a vote. to explain how important this is, we're joined by kevin's early on capitol hill. >> this is a big day for the trump administration as well as mitch mcconnell. it is unknown whether or not a procedural vote to pass health care reform will advance later today. the white house is not taking and chances. vice president mike pence will reside over the boat in case he needs to pass the deciding vote. republicans can only lose to republican votes. susan collins of maine is in the, and it is unclear whether senator rand paul of kentucky will also join that camp. senator john mccain himself is flying back today

with the dollar index down eight percent we bring in paul richards for the impact currencies could have certainly in the commentary of what the ceos are saying. what a move you had in currency. you must be on this super bowl these moves. >> the toughest thing for the multinationals is hedging. from my experience most are hedging 25% to 30% of what they've got. they are getting the win but are they positioned now? all the multinationals talking about what are we doing with this thing now they will feel confident but looking forward i don't think they are sure about where it is going. >> do you have a feeling where it is going? big investors that i'm sure you had been talking to. >> what it boils down to is the currency market says the dollar is weak. it is anti-trump trade and you have the ecb saying we are in a position to start normalizing because europe is recovering politically and economically. my feeling from here is it is about what washington is going to do. in october do they give us a problem with the debt ceiling. does something get done on tax repeal this year on tax repeal i

with us to talk about his claim is richard painter who now teaches law at the university of minnesota. also with us our friend paul butler former federal prosecutor focused on public corruption while at doj prosecuting a u.s. senator and fbi agents. for his part he teaches law at georgetown. richard painter, what as it has happened as alleged in "the new york times," what is illegal about it? well we now have even more information. we are told that donald trump jr. received an email and informing him that the russians wanted to help his father's presidential campaign. he was also told that the russian had derogatory information about hillary clinton before the meeting. at that point any loyal american would have called the fbi because we know how the russians get derogatory information about people. it's the way thief been doing it ever since the 1917 russian revolution, by conducting espionage and trying to destabilize western governments. they've been trying to do this to us. he would have called the fbi if he had been acting responsibly. but instead he goes to the meeting and brings along to the meeting apparen

effort among those individual candidates and then to go collected and then people like richard out in los angeles over paul ryan who has traveled the country like gay community leader. rand paul has gone to black colleges those are good but you need a much larger part. if you remember the autopsy report the party said this is what we need to do going forward. >> to what degree is there a role for the black elite in the private sector to mobilize the black community with the recognition of your view to disseminate that message?. >> there is a role. but it depends on many members of these elites that have become convinced the government put them in the position is that they are i have spoken to groups of black professionals those of the 1% but for racial preferences see were still fighting a mindset of pushing on to do black america not just encouraging independence but upper and middle lower class that we would not be where we are today with big government so that is a challenge. >> charles murray wrote about the impact of welfare and in the navies of family disintegration and. if you look at the situation

in april we learned that a federal grand jury subpoenaed paul manafort's bank records. in march, richard reported that the attorney general of the nation of cypress had been asked to hand over information about paul manafort's offshore banking activities. and tonight, new york prosecutors from the d.a.'s office subpoenaing this bank in chicago, run by a campaign adviser th adviser. and that's all just the law enforcement stuff. we also learned last week in the "the new york times," almost in a passing reference, their big story on the trump tower meeting with donald trump jr. and paul manafort and jared kushner and all of those russians, the par ren thet kl reference, paul manafort had disr discussed that meeting with congressional investigators. which means in addition to him handling all of these subpoenas, paul manafort has also apparently been discussing things with congressional investigators. i didn't know he was talking to them. there was a period of a couple of months he said he would register as a foreign agent and the time when he finally did. that meant it was months after a l

paul manafort. i spoke with richard blumenthal who sits on the senate judiciary committee investigating aspects of thestory and just got the green light to hear from donald trump, jr. and jared kushner. >> this eighth individual who represented a family with potential financial or other ties to the russians is part of this pattern of concealment. beginning in june, but going through even the period before and after the election and the inauguration. >> back now with the panel. mike, one of the things trey gowdy i think said last week, he's a supporter of the president, anybody in the white house who has had a meeting should just tell the special prosecutor and just get it -- special counsel mueller, just get it out of the way. it does seem like this is such a cliche to talk about the drip drip drip, but it doesn't help the white house, does it? >> no, i agree with that. and i think they're going through the process of trying to figure this out. but people forget about things that they did. claire mccaskill forgot she met with the russian ambassador, so did nancy pelosi. they're trying to gather this i

richard reardon in l.a. do pretty well on that front. paul ryan is someone who has traveled the country with people like a community leader who's been around for a long time. rand paul has gone to black colleges. i think those are good but i think you need a much larger outcome. i think the party if you remember that autopsy report after lost, the party said this is what we need to do going forward and then you have this political earthquake with trump coming on. >> a question back there. >> to what degree do you think there's a role for the black elite and the private sector to try to mobilize the black community to get a recognition of your view and to disseminate that message? >> there are is a role. i mean it depends. many members of these elite, that elite group i think have become convinced that it is the government that put them in the position they are in today. in other words i have spoken to groups of black professionals, black one percenters who are convinced that their class of blacks would not exist so you are still fighting a mi

gave a speech probably written by paul manafort or maybe even by kisscy lack who heads up the center for national interest originally called the nixon center. >> richard, as the investigation grinds on, we're seeing the president lashing out, today his outburst started on twitter 6:00 a.m. saying jeff sessions has taken a very weak position on hillary clinton climbs. already with e-mails and dnc server and leerkz? he's calling sessions weak but also resurrecting this idea of a criminal pursuit of hillary clinton. is that possible and what would the fallout be? >>. >> it's one more twitter tantrum from the twitter in chief i guess. but this idea asking occur attorney general to investigate your opponent who lost the election and prosecute your opponent, we don't do business that way in the united states. we don't prosecute the person who lost the election. and you know, that type of abuse of power is exactly the type of thing that ought to lead to impeachment of a president. if that order were carried out. fortunately, we have an attorney general who is not going to be so stupid as to go after hillary clinton or over that was somethinged ad nauseam ove

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so far we know that rand paul and susan collins have indicated they are not on board yet. richardy do we just spoke with says he isn't yet but a lot of work still needs to be done. >> there are other bills floating around as well, which is the strange thing here. lindsey graham, bill cassidy as well. >> right. scarlet: they have their work cut out for them in the two -- first two weeks of august. let's get a check of the headline, bloomberg first word news. mark: president trump's proposed budget would not balance within 10 years, contrary to the white house's claim, according to a report today by the nonpartisan congressional budget office. the cobe estimates the different deficit in 2027 would be $720 billion under mr. trump's plan. the president's budget office said its proposal would result in a $16 billion surplus that year. still the cbo says the trump budget would reduce the deficit well below current projections. senate republican leaders today released a revised health care plan that would provide an added $70 billion to stabilize insurance exchanges over a decade and eff

at the g20 summit, coupled with the meeting between donald trump jr., paul manafort and jared kushner. i sat down with senator richard blumenthal to talk about all this. >> this is part of that pattern of concealment beginning in june but going through even the period before and after the election and the inauguration. >> back now with the panel. one of the things trey gowdy said last week who is certainly a supporter of the president said anybody who is in the white house and has had a meeting should just hold a meeting with special prosecutor mueller and get it out of the way. it seems such a cliche to talk about the drip, drip, drip, but it doesn't help the white house, does it? >> i agree, and i think they're going through the process of figuring this out. clara mccatskill forgot she met with the german leader. there was a time the trump campaign had a difficult time colluding with the rnc. this is a campaign that doesn't look like other campaigns because the candidate was the communications director, the campaign manager. the campaign won because donald trump had a message and a vision and he got it to the ameri

and john paul jones' most famous career success was in 1779, when he has this protracted naval battle, commanding a ship known as the richard, against british forces and it's almost a debacle. because the ships are burned and sinking and the americans are losing and john paul jones runs on the deck of the ship supposedly and marshals his men and they go on to win the battle and capture the british ship. it's that kind of fame that john paul jones krafd. he was an ambitious person -- craved. not everybody else is enamored of somebody who is super ambitio ambitious. so john paul jones was constantly getting fired by the continental congress and didn't get the commands of ships he wanted. he ends by taking his baseball bat and glove and leaving after the american revolution. he signs up to fight with catherine the great's navy in russia and he hopes he's going to make a lot of money that doesn't work out. at the end of his life he moves to paris and dies in obscurity. but his fame as this daring naval commander for the american revolution lives on beyond his lifetime. and eventually his body which was buried in paris is brough

richard rear done out in l.a. do pretty well. stephen goldsmith in indianapolis. you see it here. paul ryan is someone who's traveled the country with people like bob wilson, a community leader who's been around for a long time, visited these neighborhoods, talked to them in the sort of jack kemp mode. rand paul has gone to black colleges and given speeches. i think those are good. but i think you need a much larger effort on the part of the party. and i think the party, if you remember that autopsy report after romney lost, the party said, you know, this is what we need to do going forward. and then you had this, you know, political earthquake with trump come along, and it all sort of went out the window. >> okay. a question back there. >> to what degree do you think there is a role for the black elite in the private sector to try to mobilize the black community to, you know, get a recognition of your view and to, you know, disseminate that message? >> there's a role. i mean, it depends, you know, many members of these elite -- that elite group, i think, have become convinced that it

richard painter. he was president george w. bush's chief white house ethics lawyer from 2005 to 2007. paul msnbc political analyst and federal prosecutor, professor at georgetown law school. john harwood remains with me. and brian darwin is with me as well. john, when we look at this and hear about the information that is coming out right now with donald trump jr. confirming the origins of the meeting. again, this is an amended statement to what he first said about why he took the meeting with the russian attorney and pulled in jared kushner and paul manafort. is this a nugget of information that has somehow leaked from bob mueller's investigation which has been pretty tight-sealed so far? >> don't know. "times" story originally yesterday said that they had been given access to documents or been able to view documents. didn't say where the documents came from. advisors to trump saying -- providing more detail about the purpose of the meeting which then prompted donald trump jr. to give his fuller statement. so i don't know the genesis of the -- that sequence of events, but certainly we've

you have someone like paul manafort, the campaign chairman, taking time to go into this meeting. richard painter, the lawyer for the bush folks said, you don't get your oppositionh research from spie. that's nuts. it's clearly tied into putin. she is clearly tied into -- >>sh kimberly: no, they said we don't know her. they can't keep track of all the lawyers. >> juan: they said this was set up by somebody involved in a beauty pageant. she is a close friendp with the putin family. it gets so bizarre. nothing is to be proven by this. but the lack of forthcoming, gestures not only by don jr. but by others -- >> jesse: don jr. doesn't have to disclose anything. it came out because of leaks. kushner and manafort voluntarily disclosed the meeting. people asked trump jr. about it but who's leaking? >> juan: apparently the trump white house. you are wrong. it's not. it's inside the white house. that isis what must be disturbig you and causing you to run. >> greg: anyone who works in russia is kremlin-linked. because it's essentially state-owned. the businesses are state owned.n my wife's father

paul manafort. >> always good to see you. thank you very much. >> thank you. >> richard haas is president of the council on foreign relations. we wanted to talk to you about a different aspect of russia but let me start with just your reaction to the fablct that nowe have three of the people closest to donald trump during the campaign, paul manafort, his son and son-in-law who will go before senate committees. what's your take on this now? >> i expect it will be unlimited breathless speculation and then i'll predict it will not be any perry mason moment. this is just going to go on. the idea that somehow next week will be a decisive or critical moment, i see nothing up to now that suggests that. >> dramatic though, for sure. i think there are a lot of people, for example, who want to hear first hand what donald trump junior has to say who want to hear what paul manafort has to say. if your implication in any way that the senate and these various senate committees are not equipped to get to the bottom of this. that's really mueller's job or what are you saying here? >> mr. mueller has greater tools at his disposal than the se

silent majority was coined by richard nixon and reintroduced by donald trump. >> you think when you look at people like paulryan, when you look at people like mitch mcconnell, are they the true in heritors of the reagan's legacy? or is it someone else? >> i don't know if there is one one inheritor. i saw mike pence give his speech today at what college? grove city college. he was terrific. it was a reagan-esque each. i think somebody is going to write a column or op-et or piece contrasting his speech with trump's at the coast guard attack. it is nicely written. if you haven't seen it, i would urge you to take a look at it. it was a peach for all americans >> i get you didn't think much of mr. trump's speech at the coast guard academy? >> he used first person pronouns like he was eating breakfast. >> let's go to the audience. we have a question here. hang on, i think there is a microphone coming for you. >> would you say ted cruz is the political force? >> freedom, individuality and future. he was a romantic and believed in life and quoted emerson, payne and so much of the enlightenment is about this. reagan

. >> joining me now is richard blumenthal a member of the senate judiciary committee. who has preapproved subpoenas to force paul manafort and donald trump jr. to appear before the committee. do you have any reason to believe they will refuse to testify and you will have to use the subpoenas. >> there is no reason to believe they will not appear. they said they have nothing to hide. but personally, having talked to the chairman of the committee, he is intently serious on a bipartisan investigation and uncovering the truth. >> why do you want to talk to those two? what elements of the russia investigation would you personally want to probe with them. >> what i want to know from them is the background of the meeting that occurred in early june. one of the really shocking revelations in the "new york times" interview was the president acknowledging that he saw the e-mails offering -- in fact, promising dirt on hillary clinton before that june meeting. although he claims he didn't know anything about the meeting. i want to know what he knew and when he knew it. and they can begin to describe it. what's more, what ha

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richard nixon after nixon resigned over the watergate scandal. the president's son and the president's former campaign chairman will talk to congressional investigators in private. donald trump, jr. and paul manafort will meet with the senate judiciary committee next week as part of its probe of russian meddling in last year's election. the committee is also negotiating for trump jr. and manafort to turn over relevant documents. they face questions about a trump tower meeting with a host of russians who had boasted of having negative information about hillary clinton. the president's son-in-law and senior adviser jared kushner, who also attended that meeting, has again revised his financial disclosure forms which is required of top administration appointees. in the paperwork filed yesterday, kushner reveals 77 previously undisclosed assets worth between $10 million and $50 million. his art collection alone is worth between $5 million and $25 million. kushner, who runs his family's commercial real estate company, said the assets were "inadvertently omitted" before. his wife, first daughter ivanka trump, submitted her financial disclosure forms for the first time on friday. the report shows

. >> paul, the meeting raises the question as to is it illegal or not? was it treason or not? was it collusion. richardnter was the ethics lawyer for george w. bush. here he is. >> we do not get our opposition research from spies. we do not collaborate with russian spies unless we need to be accused of treason. >> treason? >> no, it's not prees son. that's when the rosenberg steal secrets and you're trying to get dirt on hillary clinton even from a russian. that's not treason. and that would put a lot of people in jail. >> now, just to ask something as a point of clarification, would it be treason? some say she was an agent of the kremlin, very clearly. we have not confirmed any such thing. if that's the case, does that change it? if she's an agent of the russian government. >> the treason statute, which by the way is punishable by death, requires you to aid and abet and aid and comfort an enemy of the united states in some affirmative way. asking if you have any dirt on hillary clinton alone i don't think makes out treason. now, when you talk about collusion, it's not even collusion but it could be th

let me start with you, richard on something that yahoo news is reporting is that the president's lawyers knew about this meeting between donald trump jr. and paulnafort and five other people. they knew about it three weeks ago. the president says he learned in just the last few days. is it possible that his attorneys would not have looped him on in this to protect the president? >> i think any competent attorney would have informed their client about this type of thing. it's very important for the client here, president trump to know the facts before he starts talking or tweeting, and while he hasn't been tweeting recently, he certainly has in the past and we do not want to have the president of the united states out there not knowing the essential facts. this meeting though, i think the trump campaign lawyers probably knew about last june when it happened. because there are serious legal implications when outside groups proposed meetings with campaign staff. you probably violate coordination laws if this had been a group run by karl rove or some other american or any guy with the campaign to coordinate with the campaign much, much more of a pr

paul manafort, likely to be closed hearings. you see the senators now trying to move forward with their own investigation. mark warner, the ranking democrat from virginia, richardurr from north carolina, they want to show their constituencies progress in the investigation. that is why you see a flurry of activity on capitol hill. there is some progress on the capitol hill congressional investigation. the real story is bob mueller and the special counsel, what he is looking into. you see in the interview real news, that the president is concerned mueller is looking into his personal finances and the trump organization. charlie: some speculate that has been the reason all along the reason donald trump did not want to reveal his income taxes. >> the question about russian money and how it has played into various trump ventures over the past few decades has been an unanswered question throughout this entire process. and clearly if you look at the president's remarks, he is skittish about the idea of his tax returns maybe being reviewed by mueller or at least elements of his finances being reviewed by investigators. because the president believes he can perhaps skat

. >> that's my strong belief we had members of fed, richard fisher among them, talking about people with insight. >> art cashin. let's bring in pauler. gentlemen, good to have you back good morning. >> thank you. >> ethan, a viewer wrote in this morning and said yellen couldn't be hawkish if she tried. could that sum it up morning. >> we had just gotten the third week core inflation meantime in a row. she sounded like she had about seen the data. and sounded positive today i thought big thing was they'll need some real data. >> paul, are you on board with that >> yes there is some question about the inflation camp that should give the fed all the cover they need to continue to make rates we think december is the more likely time. >> ethan, what do you think about the intraplay of the balance sheetd reduction and the rate hikes obviously they're saying, we don't want you to think the balance is taking the place of rate hikes the market seems to feel you can call it normalization if you're draining off the balance sheet and maybe it gives you room in terms of future rate hikes how does that play out in the market >> i think the fed

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richard painter and jonathan turley. jeff toobin, kushner amended his security clearance forms now not once, but twice. it seems like the second time, only after paulort told, according to "the new york times," told capitol hill about this meeting with donald trump jr. at what point should he stop getting the benefit of the doubt, that it was just an oversight? >> well, you know, one of the things about security clearances is the more powerful you are in the government, the less likely the officials are to give you a problem on security clearance. it is not an equitable system. but what is so troubling about this whole issue of omitting these visits is that the whole purpose of disclosing the names of the foreign nationals you've met with is so that the background clearance folks can investigate these meetings. and look at what the circumstances were. so this is not just some technic technicality. this is something that is actually crucial to determining why someone should be granted or denied a security clearance and he seems to have had a great deal of trouble in getting his form right. >> professor turley, the other part of it is to that the u.s

paul manafort, likely to be closed hearings. you see the senators right now, charlie, trying to move forward with their own investigation, mark warner the democrat from virginia, richard borrow from north carolina, they want to show their voters and constituencies progress, that's why you see this flurry on capitol hill. the real story as ever is bob mueller and special council what he's looking into and you see in that "new york times" interview real news that the president's concern muller is looking into his personal finances in the trump organization. >> rose: some speculate that's the reason all along why donald trump did not want to reveal his income taxes. >> the question about russian money past ventures over the last decade has been an unanswered question throughout this entire process. clearly if you just look at the president's remarks, he's skittish about the idea the tacks returns being reviewed by mueller or elements of his financial record being finally reviewed. because the president believes he can perhaps escape any kind of obstruction charge or how he handled the investigation with comey and others. if it becomes a broader investigation with a scope

paul, thanks for being with us. so a lot happening there. is the president, is his right here to pardon power, could he pardon himself? >> that is an open question, richardsupreme court has never opined on it. i think the best answer is probably not. what the constitution said is the president could pardon anybody for a forward crime. it explicitly states however, he cannot thwart an impeachment proceeding. so that suggests that the nature of pardon is an exercise of mercy against another person. it is probably not something that you can bestow on yourself. but the way that we find out is if the president does actually pardon himself, then the supreme court would review it. >> can he pardon without us knowing it? >> no. it would have to be a public act. it is complete in the sense that he can pardon anybody else for federal crime, including members of his family. and he could also pardon prospectively, you don't have to be charged with a crime in order to be pardoned. a lot of folks will remember when gerald ford pardoned nixon. at that point nixon hadn't been charged with a crime but the pardon was still valid. >> and then we have jeff sessions in that

richard nixon which led to the resignation of the president. but the story i wanted to tell had to do with your question, paul, about surprising views of the justice. each sitting of the court, the clerk's office would roll in all of the briefs, cart full of all of the briefs for the upcoming sitting and the law clerks took turns choosing which case they wanted to work on thinking they were going to take the big case that justice marshall would clearly be interested in writing on. in my case the big case was a case that most people had never maerd heard of. it involved the issue of reverse discrimination coming to the supreme court for the first time by a white student who had been denied admission to the washington university law school and claimed that he had been discriminated against because of an affirmative action program that the school had. at the end of the day the case became moot. 5-4 vote, decided it was moot because he had been ordered by court order into the law school and he was graduating by the time the court was getting around to writing an opinion. but this was mackey versus california three years before. i'd be interested in th

richard blumenthal of connecticut. great to have you on the show this morning. as of friday last week, also this week, donald trump junior and paulll to speak, but that's changed? >> they are no shows for the committee hearing. the expectation was they would testify voluntarily. >> and publicly? >> and publicly and under oath. which i think is vitally important. jared kushner will be at the intelligence committee today, but it will be privately, and it will not be under oath. i think subpoenas are going to be necessary for trump junior and for paul manafort to appear and the other witnesses who were at that early june 2016 meeting. and possibly subsequent meetings, and i will support chairman grassley for the witnesses and documents. >> kasie hunt has a question. >> what can the judiciary committee accomplish that the senate intelligence committee can't? there's been conversations about how the senate intelligence committee is doing it job. what can you on the judiciary committee accomplish that they can't? >> great question. what we can do and it's our mission to do, is to get to the bottom of any obstruction of justice that was