i feel same way about paul robeson. those would be my persons ultimate renaissance persons male and female. we'll see what people think about that, peter. >> host: carol from memphis emails, what are your thoughts about the movie "selma"? >> guest: i saw it a couple weeks ago. it was a good movie. i enjoyed the movie. i'm a big chagrined and a bit concerned about all of the pushback that is the movie is now starting to get. just this morning i appeared on this week on abc while here in town. i got off the air flipping channels and caught a good conversation that my friend bob schieffer had on "face the nation" this morning about the movie, "selma" and how it portrays lyndon johnson. joseph califano, written a piece, head of lbj museum in texas written a lot. a lot of people, front page of "new york times" a few days ago big article in the washington post few days ago. there is a lot of media attention, social media attention, print media attention, being given to whether or not the movie portrays lbj as he ought be port

here is paul robeson singing.fe and drums] >> ♪ glory, glory hallelujah glory, glory hallelujah glory, glory hallelujah his truth goes marching on john brown's body lies a moldering in the grave john brown's body lies a moldering in the grave john brown's body lies a moldering in the grave his soul goes marching on glory, glory hallelujah glory, glory hallelujah ♪ the >> one of the many people who knew john brown's body actually had known john brown. samuel gridley howe was one of the secret six conspirators helping to fund the raid harpers ferry. his wife, julia ward howe had invited john brown for coffee. she knew brown and loved the song. samuel gridley howe in 1861 becomes one of the heads of the sanitary commission. julia goes with samuel gridley to washington, d.c. julia ward howe is now remembered only for "the battle hymn of the republic," but she was impeccably educated. she comes from new york city from one of the elite banking families. in the 1850's, she was one of the most accomplished poets in the un