paul ryan of the state of wisconsin has received 206 votes. this announcement of the state of the vote by the president of the senate shall redeem a sufficient declaration of the person selected president and vice-president of the united states, each for the term beginning on the 20th day of january, 2013, and shall be entered together with a list of votes in the journal of the senate and of the house of representatives. the joint session having been concluded pursuant to the senate joint resolution, the chair declares the joint session dissolved. [applause] [captioning performed by national captioning institute] [captions copyright national cable satellite corp. 2012] >> tomorrow, changes to the u.s. tax code. with donald williamson. thomas schatz cox about legislation review. "washington journal" live tomorrow morning at 7:00 a.m. eastern on c-span. >> there is low hanging fruit that is extremely appealing to people across all parties. it sounded to me like you were saying -- how can people on the right with a full spectrum, frankly it is to

>> at least in the house, like paul ryan, the $11 trillion man, at least paul ryan passes a budget. >> thank you, paul. >> thank you for the $11 trillion in additional debt. what does reid do? >> in this case he represented the interests of his caucus and signed off on a deal that got the democrats a ton of stuff. >> okay. again, i don't fault mitch mcconnell -- >> nobody got to hurricane sandy relief. >> dealing with a democratic senate. >> he could have full builibust the whole thing. >> and tax rates would have gone up on everybody. >> mitch mcconnell chose to be a quiet statesman. you didn't see him on camera. quietly, mitch mcconnell is the reason we have this agreement. he's a great strategy. i'd like to know his view of entitlement reform. maybe he's got some idea about how this gives them more leverage in the next round. >> come on, be positive. it's a new year. >> i don't expect much from republican senators. i love them. i love them. i don't expect them to be fiscal hawks. >> he's so difficult usually so there must have been a deal cut. he's so difficult. he's impossible. >>

indeed, the nobel laureate calls paul ryan a con man. l party appoint a con man as their chief exist? >> well, i think i can answer that. the theme that paul and i were both getting at today is that this idea that there is a deficit crisis and we're going to be greece if we don't breach the debt ceiling and impose budgets that cut the government 40% in ten years, the idea behind those crisis mongers is that we have to slash the heck out of social insurance, out of programs that provide educational opportunities for poor people, out of things that push back against economic inequality. we can't afford it. we must cut them. the crisis dictates it. if there is no crisis and, as krugman and i argue, there is no crisis, if there is no crisis, they're just out there in nowhere land by themselves, by the way, without the majority of the electorate behind them. >> very briefly, jared, if you can, eric cantor says taxes are done, no taxes, so i guess another stalemate to come on that? >> i see -- it's hard to see how the budget that's going to com

paul ryan aof the state of wisconsin has received two hundred six votes. this announcement of the state of the votes shall be deemed sufficient declaration of the persons elected president and vice president of the united states, each for the term beginning on the 20th day of january, 2013, and shall be entered, together with a list of votes, in the journal of the senate and house of representatives. last page. ok. the purpose of the joint session having been included pursuant to the senate resolution 113 of the 113th congress, the chair declares the giant session dissolved. -- joint session dissolved. [applause] [captioning performed by national captioning institute] [captions copyright national cable satellite corp. 2013] >> next, conversations with north dakota senator john hogan and maine senator angus king. after that, a discussion of the british policy of exporting weapons. on news makers, debbie's death and now, chairman of the agriculture committee. debbie stabenow. >> if i did not have my case coming up, i would like to come back with you gentleme

paul ryan of the state of wisconsin has received 206 votes. this announcement of the state of the vote by the president of the senate shall redeem a sufficient declaration of the person selected president and vice-president of the united states, each for the term beginning on the 20th day of january, 2013, and shall be entered together with a list of votes in the journal of the senate and of the house of representatives. the joint session having been concluded pursuant to the senate joint resolution, the chair declares the joint session dissolved. [applause] >> >>, conversations with senator john hoeven and maine senator in the skin. after that, william hague will talk about his government's policy on exporting weapons. michigan senator debbie stabenow, chairman of agriculture committee -- she talks about what is next on the farm bill after a small part was passed as part of the fiscal cliff package. at 10:00 a.m. and 6:00 p.m. eastern on sunday on c-span. >> if i did not have my case coming up, i would like to come back so that we could reall

and congressman paul ryan is leading the way.on as a co-sponsor to the most extreme law, the anti-choice movement can come up with. it's a personhood bill that would give legal and constitutional rights to a single-celled human embryo. the law would make all abortions illegal, even in cases of rape, incest or to save the health or life of the mother. it could out law some forms of birth control and even ban in vitro fertilization. but pushing these extreme views on women is nothing new for ryan. >> well, look, i'm proud of my pro-life record. it's something i'm proud of. >> of course, paul ryan is not alone. the rest of this new republican congress is starting the new year right where they left off in the old one. last week, republicans introduced two separate bills to defund planned parenthood and republicans refused to renew the violence against women act. this is incredible. republicans have either forgotten about todd aiken, richard murdoch and the war on caterpillars or they don't care. either way, the war on women is back,

one is probably choosing paul ryan to be the vice presidential nominee. st because, a, it never gave him the left that anyone thought it would. he neutered ryan as a political force in the campaign and for paul ryan it brought to the floor the horrible draconian things he was pushing. the ryan budget, 2340 way to run away with it. >> krystal? >> alex and i are on the same wavelength here. i think picking paul ryan was the worst move not only for all those reasons and mitt romney went on to lose wisconsin badly but also there were questions particularly after paul ryan's debate performance against joe biden of whether he was really ready to step on the stage and to be the number two and i think for a lot of people who were thinking about maybe going with romney not only were they uncomfortable with how far to the right he was, how extreme his positions on social security and medicare, but they also just felt like he wasn't quite ready for prime time. i think it was a very bad strategic move for them. >> steve, the worst move? >> let me come at it from a sli

paul ryan says increasing revenue is off the table for now. the gop, the tax hikes during the fiscal cliff stuff. do they do it again? >> he was also asked and side stepped whether or not you could close loopholes. it is another way to get revenue. that is what david gregory asked him. he had a nonresponse response to that. there are other ways to get revenue than across the board tax hike. we know we just litigated that. i don't think that congressman ryan was very responsive to that line of thinking. people on both sides say there are loopholes that can be closed. >> this is paul ryan talking about what he learned after the 2012 loss. take a listen. >> what do you think the party should learn? >> we had to expand our appeal. we had to expand our appeal to more people and show how we will take the country's founding principles and apply them to offer solutions. >> that sounds like a lot of corporate speak. what is your sense of the gop's efforts so far? >> it's a little bit vague. you mentioned the immigration and that is one area where i thi

those cuts go way beyond anything paul ryan suggested during the campaign. old plan balanced the budget in 30 years. but he still wanted to cut programs for the poor by 62%. ryan's old budget would have slashed federal medicaid funding by almost a third. paul ryan's new budget plan will have to be leaner and meaner than the last one. but ryan claims the numbers will eventually add up. >> this isn't a republican or a democratic thing. this is a math thing. >> a math thing. let's turn to congressman chris van hollen, who is the ranking democratic member on the house budget committee. congressman, good to have you with us tonight. >> ed, it's good to be with you. your analysis is spot-on. >> although i do not have the swampland, i was just kidding on that one. >> right. >> what happened today on the debt ceiling? i mean, are we going to go through this again in another three, four months? >> well, that's right. look, the little bit of good news here, ed, was that republicans recognized that the united states has to pay their bills. the bad news is they said, wel

they asked paul ryan, he asks paul ryan, can you balance the budget in ten years? and paul ryan says yeah, we're much better off now because we raised taxes. listen. >> all right, can you get to balance in ten years, and not raise revenues? >> yes, yeah, the baseline, the revenue baseline is obviously higher now that we have this cliff behind us. >> well, would you look at that? raising taxes does help you balance the budget. who knew? perhaps the republicans could take this insight further, but they're not. ryan says no more revenue increases at all. and so what is ryan going to do beyond the tax increases democrats forced on republicans, how will he get that budget balanced? he won't say. >> going back to the math question, you said that the reforms to medicare wouldn't apply to -- to people who are say, 55 or older. but -- as some members have suggested, wouldn't it be necessary in order to balance the budget in ten years to make those reforms applicable to people who are say six, seven, eight years into the program? >> you know, i am just not going to get into

one is probably choosing paul ryan to be the vice presidential nominee. ause, a, it never gave him the left that anyone thought it would. he neutered ryan as a political force in the campaign and for paul ryan it brought to the floor the horrible draconian things he was pushing. the ryan budget, 2340 way to run away with it. >> crystal? >> alex and i are on the same wavelength here. i think picking paul ryan was the worst move not only for all those reasons and mitt romney went on to lose wisconsin badly but also there were questions particularly after paul ryan's debate performance against joe biden of whether he was really ready to step on the stage and to be the number two and i think for a lot of people who were thinking about maybe going with romney not only were they uncomfortable with how far to the right he was, how extreme his positions on social security and medicare, but they also just felt like he wasn't quite ready for prime time. i think it was a very bad strategic move for them. >> steve, the worst move? >> let me come at it from a slightly

we are about to hear from our next speaker, congressman paul ryan. [applause] when he was picked as mitt romney's running mate, he became a subject of fascination, even to his workout routine. for those of you who are not fit enough to have a workout routine and it sounds like some advanced piece of weapon military are you happen not to work out before breakfast, the p90 x is is that you confuse your muscle by trying constantly new and different workouts everyday. we have evidence that paul ryan is very loyal to this workout routine. his most innovative workout has been caught on tape and broadcasted broadly. it includes running through the woods and pushing ladies in wheelchairs off a cliff. this is a tremendous workout. as you are pushing the wheelchair, it works out the legs really good on the running, the cargo is there. depending on your technique of pushing the wheelchairs off the cliff, you get the arms there as well. [laughter] i hope i'm not betraying any confidences when i say that the chapter of republican policies has been authored by pau

let's listen to paul ryan. decided to not comment between the election and the inauguration because i wanted to see what kind of presidents we are looking at here, what kind of path and trajectory he was putting his administration on and all of the statements an comments lead me to think he is thinking more of a political conquest than political compromise. >> some already are trying to call this sore losers, same old type of whining. what did you make of everything you heard from congressman ryan? >> it is a combination of two things them president won re-election decisively but the republicans won here, too. the question is where to compromise in the middle in some way, shape or form. congressman ryan is right, he was elected and needs to lead and frame the debate in the conversation. with respect to what was said before this is like gentleman view all over again. moderate democrats and some progressive democrats were chastised by other networks that we should not name when they tried to work with president b

speaker boehner, eric cantor and paul ryan. that's change you can believe in. and it was mr. l kinds of advice today on how to battle president obama. this is the gop's fix-it guy? >> 70% of americans want the american dream. they believe in the american idea. only 30% want the welfare state. >> we don't want to turn this into a panic. that law is able-bodied people the ability to buy. >> i've always adopted the idea that the method of conception doesn't change the definition of life. >> this is the guy to fix their tarnished brand. they're lost. and they're freaked out about their future. the hill reports republicans where they'll lose the house to democrats if they botched the fiscal talks. so have a great time in williams burg. enjoy the bonding. but good luck when you get back to washington. maybe it's time for more than a little get away. >> joining me now, an msnbc contributor and a former director executive of the congressional black caucus. thanks to you both for being here tonight. >> thank you. >> thanks for having me, rev. >> maria and theresa, what do you see comin

dagen: paul ryan showing some love for president lyndon. connell: the largest to a new all-time high. turning into a slow grind. in other words, it is taking forever. dagen: top of the hour, everybody. stocks now and every 15 minutes. nicole petallides is looking at a pretty lousy day for one retailer. nicole: i am taking a look at barnes & noble, dagen and connell. they will close a third of their stores. it is a tough economy. people are moving to digital. this may bode well for amazon.com. barnes & noble down nearly 2% today. barnes & noble say they will close one third of their stores over the next decade. let's take a look at the broader market. the dow down about ten points. much like the nasdaq composite and the s&p 500. they are all hovering near the unchanged line. the retail, drugged and bank index all have done okay with down arrows. connell: a team of a bipartisan senators have come together with their own plan on immigration reform. dagen: peter barnes is on capitol hill with the very latest. peter: this group of eight editors

a lot of people were looking at paul ryan, marco rubio voted no. grand paul voted no. paul ryan, a yes. what message does that send? that gave cover for republicans to come on board. john boehner, he got a lot of criticism today. he did not have to vote, but stood up and voted. he showed his conference what he thought. it was pseudo courageous. >> even though he did not have to vote, as you have underlined for us so far. we have some response there from a representative from speaker boehner's office. on your side, what do we expect the president to say when he comes to the microphone and about three minutes? >> i think he will laud the bipartisan nature and look ahead to what we have been talking about over the last half hour, what is coming in two-month's time. let's take a look at what has happened since the election. i believe it was the day after the election, richard, when john boehner appeared in the capital and conceded that revenues were going to be raised. he wanted to close loopholes, and some deductions, but did not want to raise rates. he knew what was comi

>> paul ryan was talking about one of the most important moral issues of our time.are stealing from our children and putting so much debt on them that their lives, their opportunities, are going to be greatly diminished. and what he said about balancing our budget or putting our country on at least a path to balance our budget in 10 years is a complete contrast with what president obama is talking about. before we get into all the political labels and the specifics, it's clear the president plans to keep spending and borrowing and putting more debt on our children. so america has a perfect contrast between the directions that they want to go. we know -- >> but we just had an election, senator with two different directions, and america chose. that's what paul ryan said last year. the country will choose what happens in 2013. and they did. so are we past the point of two different visions in choosing? >> i don't think the country has chosen that. in fact, we see almost in the majority of states now where a conservative, bold visionary governors are implementing the id

the fiscal cliff, wrote the washington post, in a nod to marco rubio voting no on the deal, while paul ryan in a surprise move to some voted yes. standing by house speaker john boehner. ryan explained his yes vote this way saying, "i came to congress to make tough decisions, not to run away from them." rubio, the rising florida senator, had a different view on the matter saying, i appreciate all the hard work that went into avoiding the so-called fiscal cliff, nevertheless, i cannot support the arrangement they have arpg arrived at." it should also be noted that kentucky senator rahn paul who said he may run for president in the tradition of his father, also voted no. then, of course, you had a visibly angry chris christie yesterday who has no qualms about taking a few swipes at his own party when it benefits him politically. at a testy press conference, christie also reverted to tradition by chewing out a reporter, which was red meat for a base of republicans who might otherwise question his more moderate positions. all of which is to say the usual behind the scenes 2016 maneuvering is bei

does paul ryan not take responsibility for that? >> paul ryan voted with us tonight.i think paul ryan has made extraordinary contributions, but we have to have a plan from the president that gets democratic votes. again, this is a budget that he's presented -- >> what about -- >> a couple of years with no democratic votes. how can that be a serious plan? >> totally with you. i said this an hour ago, the one thing the government has a responsibility to do is come up with a budget. eric cantor voted against this bill. you have a discipline problem in the republican house caucus. >> we let the house -- look, this was an unusual circumstance. i disagree with a lot of my friends. i look at something that makes 85% of the bush tax cuts permanent for 98% of the american people as a big win. frankly, when taxes were going to go up on everybody, to not protect 98% of the people when you had an opportunity to me is short sighted. if we don't pass this tonight, you're looking at a $4 trillion tax increase and you're looking at financial chaos. you're also looking at a gutted mil

does paul ryan not take responsibility for that? >> paul ryan voted with us tonight. so i think paul ryan has made extraordinary contributions, but we have to have a plan from the president that gets democratic votes. again, this is a budget that he's presented -- >> what about -- >> a couple of years with no democratic votes. how can that be a serious plan? >> totally with you. i said this an hour ago, the one thing the government has a responsibility to do is come up with a budget. eric cantor voted against this bill. you have a discipline problem in the republican house caucus. >> we let the house -- look, this was an unusual circumstance. i disagree with a lot of my friends. i look at something that makes 85% of the bush tax cuts permanent for 98% of the american people as a big win. frankly, when taxes were going to go up on everybody, to not protect 98% of the people when you had an opportunity to me is short sighted. if we don't pass this tonight, you're looking at a $4 trillion tax increase and you're looking at financial chaos. you're also looking at a gutted

does paul ryan not take responsibility for that? >> paul ryan voted with us tonight. so i think paul ryan has made extraordinary contributions, but we have to have a plan from the president that gets democratic votes. again, this is a budget that he's presented -- >> what about -- >> a couple of years with no democratic votes. how can that be a serious plan? >> totally with you. i said this an hour ago, the one thing the government has a responsibility to do is come up with a budget. eric cantor voted against this bill. you have a discipline problem in the republican house caucus. >> we let the house -- look, this was an unusual circumstance. i disagree with a lot of my friends. i look at something that makes 85% of the bush tax cuts permanent for 98% of the american people as a big win. frankly, when taxes were going to go up on everybody, to not protect 98% of the people when you had an opportunity to me is short sighted. if we don't pass this tonight, you're looking at a $4 trillion tax increase and you're looking at financial chaos. you're also looking at a gutted

whatever happened to the nice, moderate paul ryan? you know, this guy. >> the truth is there has to be a balance between the two. government must act for the common good while leaving private groups free to do the work that only they can do >> jon: private groups they kept up their half of the deal. they raised like $400 million. remember this? the who? the stones, bon jovi half the surviving view. it was so bi springsteen was the opening up. you know what they called kanye at this concert? intermission. by the way, you can't change the rules of the game in the middle of a disaster. if you're part of a country that gets shellacked by a country, we kick in a couple of she canals. the truth of the matter is, this whole principled ideology thing that you're putting out there is bull [bleep] anyway. exhibit-a. mississippi's honorable mr. palazzo >> he voted no to help the victims of hurricane sandy. >> jon: i know what you're thinking. the inventor of palazzo pants? a.k.a. john stewart's fat day pants? but no. he is the guy who just last

is paul ryan now the de facto head of the gop?well, you know, actually, martin, i think he has been much more influential than people realize -- >> because he's been quite quiet publicly. >> going back to 2011. he has so much respect within that republican caucus. he's the guy who killed simpson/bowl simpson/bowles. he was on the simpson/bowles commission and wasn't willing to have any revenue increases. his fingerprints were not on it. and then when it came to the grand bargain, he told john boehner wait until the election. don't do this deal. so this is more of the same from him in his own relatively quiet way because he is much more intelligent than a lot of the other members. he does wield a lot of influence. what he's trying to do here is not just kick the can down the road but to kind of institution institutionalize basically a water torture for the country where we would be going through this potentially month after month after month. >> yeah. jared, it was reported today that the country saw another drop in unemployment cl

marco rubio in the senate, paul ryan -- paul ryan for in the house. interesting break.you had rubio no, one of eight senators to vote no. what does it mean? >> i think that senator rubio's vote was short sighted. it's an opportunity to vote for middle class tax cuts. he's going to have a lot of other opportunities. i saw his statement on the spending. this might be one of his biggest opportunities to vote for middle class tax cuts and he blew it. >> paul ryan in voting yes, somewhat surprising, a.b., said, look, i came here to get things done. >> i think it's risky but it's politics in 2016, that's for sure. >> shameless plug? >> my mom's birthday on friday. people wonder where i inherited my argumentative streak. happy birthday, mom. >> i'm going to have to come up with a column on the fiscal cliff in a couple of hours for 2013 and everyone should read it. >> i want to wish a happy holiday to all the staffers and report who are had to lose their holiday and hope in 2013 there will be a lot less political dysfunction. >> my thank you is to chuck todd for letting me sit

paul ryan plan -- love paul ryan plan does not touch anything 55 -- the paul ryan plan does not touchy 55 or older. they are talking about slowing the growth. i won't get into a whole discussion of baseline budgeting. you are right. washington is not a real place. a budget like no family in america budgets -- they budget like no family in america budgets. slow the growth. cut in some places where you truly have wasteful spending. and we can put this country back on the path of sustainability. if we do not, it makes corporations' bad behavior, like enron, look like a pretty minor thing compared to what we're going to do to every american. host: 4 worth, texas, republican line -- fort worth, texxas, republican -- fort worth, texas, republican line. [video clip] caller: that new tower had a 20- year warranty on it. they have replaced it five times. is there some reason they keep spending -- buying new stuff that we don't need? that's just one building. i'm sure they do it in all of them. host: ok. chris chocola. guest: if you tried to root out all the wasteful spending of federal dollars