i couldn't resist calling, talking about paul ryan. when joe klein responds in an awesome way as if that's a bold plan of ryan's, that makes me think, would he have said that same thing in awe of the boldness of it osama bin laden of 911 or of hitler's plan for europe? would he have spoken that way of awe and called it bold? >> bill: yeah, i mean hez did i have in addition of "bold" is loose. it may be bold in the sense of crazy. right? or dangerous? or harmful to humanities. i guess under that definition you could include the paul ryan budget. >> caller: right. they ought to use the word horrific. >> bill: horrific would be a better word. maybe real. it's certainly not real. if it's not real, it's not bold. it is -- i wouldlike to use the word bs but there are so many words i can't say on the radio. rosk roscoe, what so you say >> caller: good. >> bill: i am good >> caller: it was working on the computer when i heard you call my name. anyway, i just -- the budget we are talking about, i am not going to try to beat a dead horse into the

they're not done away with. >> paul ryan's budget leaves in the increase in top income tax rate that president obama achieved in january, the conservative blog red state noted the ryan budget leaves in 1 trillion in tax revenue in president obama's health care reform bill, including taxes on tanning salons and high value health care plans, which provoked erick erickson to question whether house republicans should even vote for it. since paul ryan's budget keeps the obama care tax revenue stream, isn't voting for his budget a violation of the repeal pledge? and in an interview with cnbc, paul ryan could not continue to pretend his budget choices had any attachment to reality. >> in terms of your budget, if you don't get it this year, likelihood of getting repealed this year is very, very, very low, does it blow a hole in your ten year budget? >> sure it blows a hole in the budget. it calls for continued spending. what is a budget? it is our vision for how we should fix this country's fiscal problems. >> the president of the center on budget and policy priorities and this program's most

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this is a document, a plan that balances the budget in ten years. >> that was congressman paul ryan thisning unveiling the third edition of his budget. it looks, well, just as untethered to reality as the last two versions. ryan's plan aims to balance the budget in ten years through deep spending cuts and significant changes to the social safety net including block granting medicaid and welfare programs. much of ryan's 91-page budget is unrealistic if not downright fantastical. it relies on the repeal of the nation's health care law, something that did not escape chris wallace on "fox news sunday." >> are you saying that as part of your budget, you would assume the repeal of obama care. >> yes. >> well, that's not going to happen. >> well we believe it should. >> the absurdity of the plan remained evident even this morning over at fox. >> paul ryan saying he's going, his idea in his budget is to eliminate obama care, that's not practic practical. even though you might want it the supreme court has spoken. >> but perhaps the best way to describe the new and improved ryan budget is ironic.

lori: paul ryan is sticking by this planned to defund obamacare.ta move on already. >> i think paul ryan is completely right on obamacare. you can't have things given to you below cost and not expect people to overuse them. it is like putting me where i can eat all i want to eat, i'm going to the caviar until i throw up. this is a very bad plan. and paul ryan is correct, the republicans should run on defunding obamacare and should not allow tax rates to go up on the rich or anyone. we need a low rate, sound money, minimal regulations, getet out f the way and let the private sector handle it. lori: you both agree it will be dead on arrival, correct? we will get two ses, how will it morph into something that will be agreeable for some sort of 2014 spending plan? >> it won't be. but it is an opening bid. what the president is doing if you would like to get to midterms. he sees losing battles ahead on spending, debt and deficits. he is interested in a larger bargain with americans to allow the trillion and a half dollars in new borrowing is going to ne

paul ryan's ideology is not about cutting the deficit. it's about shifting focus of what government invests in. the philosophy spending money on poor people and old people is a waste of money. >> looters. >> they're just looters. >> looters. remember that? >> now we call them the takers. >> it's the takers versus the makers. >> it's $1 trillion in cuts in this budget from medicaid, food stamps and education and job training programs. $1 trillion. and not doing anything in terms of the -- >> well, we're not alone here in this critique. even former omb director under president george w. bush, jim nussle, called ryan's proposal unrealistic. here's what he said on cnbc just this morning. let's listen. >> chairman ryan coming out saying, you know, one of the marquee issues in the budget is going to be repeal of obama care. well, i think we fought that battle. i think it's over. it's been over a few times. good luck with that one. that doesn't make it any more realistic. >> what about, joy, what about this proposal? i mean, he's got here, he's

meanwhile, president -- i mean paul ryan who tried to be vice president, congressman paul ryan, williling his 2014 budget, he calls the path to prosperity which is a big joke. going nowhere. the heart of his budget is repealing obamacare which ain't gonna happen. wherever it's happening we'll keep you up to date on it right here on current tv. >> if you believe in state's rights but still support the drug war you must be high. >> "viewpoint" digs deep into the issues of the day. >> do you think that there is any chance we'll see this president even say the words "carbon tax"? >> with an open mind... >> has the time finally come for real immigration reform? >> ...and a distinctly satirical point of view. >> but you mentioned "great leadership" so i want to talk about donald rumsfeld. >> (laughter). >> watch the show. >> only on current tv. [ male announcer ] it's red lobster's lobsterfest our largest selection of lobster entrees like lobster lover's dream or new grilled lobster and lobster tacos. come in now and sea food differently. visit redlobster.com now for an exclusive $10 coupo

. >>> paul ryan, the health bomber. let's play "hardball." >>> good evening, i'm chris matthews in washington. let me start tonight with this. here we go. right in the middle of all this let's get together mood in washington, dinner with republican senators, breakfast with paul ryan himself, and his democratic counterpart chris van hollen, out pops the killer rabbit if you will, the mad bomber. paul ryan hardly finished with his breakfast at the white house suddenly out there with the wing nuts calling for the all-out elimination of the health care act. the measure written into law by 60 senator supermajority, ryan now proposes killing. he wants to do a pretty good job of medicare while in the killing business. calling for elimination of medicare as people know it and replacing it with a voucher system so people in their late 70s, 80s, 90s i suppose can have a late life adventure of shopping for health care insurance. my question is why the newspapers keep acting as if this guy, paul ryan, is some big republican brain.

paul ryan talked to me about it.icularly corporate tax rates, which are off the charts way too high. not just for the big corporations, but for the smaller corporations who play -- pay the personal code, right? 44%. can you co sponsor that? can you get a group of senators, maybe this group, you and toomey and marco and the others, to get this lower tax rate pro growth bill going in the senate? >> i am passionately in favor of tax reform. and i think we need to dramatically simplify the tax code, reduce the burden, both the corporate tax code and the personal tax code. both cases, you know, every year the cost of tax compliance is over $500 billion. >> yep. >> i mean, that's as much as we spend on the pentagon. >> get rid of the loopholes. if the rate is low enough, you don't need loopholes. the incentive will kick in. >> that's exactly right. i would like for every individual to fill out his taxes on a postcard. and that $500 billion is all dead weight lost. as we say in texas, it doesn't produce a single truck orato

for the third consecutive year, house budget chairman paul ryan unveiled the gop's latest vision of tax and spending priorities. ryan's latest work of ayn rand fan fiction would balance the budget, producing a small surplus in just ten years. a goal achieved with cuts of $4.6 trillion. but also by the addition of some new revenue. courtesy of the president. yes, those tax increases that the president fought for and won as part of the fiscal cliff deal, mr. ryan's going to keep those. i mean, why not? >> we're not going to refight the past. law is law. we know that that's not going to change. especially with respect to these issues. >> the past is the past. the law is the law. except when it comes to the affordable care act because much of mr. ryan's pie in the sky proposal is based squarely, get this, on the repeal of obama care. >> we don't like this law. this is why we're proposing to repeal this law in our budget. more importantly, we believe that this law is going to collapse under its own weight. this, to us, is something we're not going to give up on because we're not going to giv

growth who doesn't believe are right wing enough which means not conservative enough to support paul ryan'set. the same one that has failed to gain any support from the majority of the sane american public leading any member of the g.o.p. with the position either don't support the ryan budget and you get primaried. or support it and get clobbered over the head with it by democrats in 2014. let's bring in someone who is all too happy to watch republicans squirm, the founder and publisher of the daily kos your friend and mine, markos moulitsas good evening. >> good evening. >> john: good to have you. is there any chance to think that he has any success winning them over to the common sense approach and maybe drive a wedge between them? >> there is a problem as much as republicans whine and complain the problem is that obama is being mean to them. the problem is they're under the control of the tea party base that won't let them do anything on behalf of the country. they're fearing for their political lives. that's the number one concern on their minds not whether obama is nice to them or not.

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how about that paul ryan budget, huh? ie cutter and pretended not to be and the new paul ryan plan is that he scratched out vice president paul ryan super awesome budget for the new america that is like the old one. it was written across the top in big like orange font. >> stephanie: you can picture the turned around baseball cap. >> the one he had to turn in to get voted on has it scratched out sadly at the top. been redacted. redacted my awesome -- >> stephanie: vice president. >> hal: the ayn rand memorial budget. [ wah wah ] >> stephanie: it just doesn't -- you think there was actually outright laughter in the white house? really? just a guess. >> hal: i think there was outright laughter at certain points during the campaign when they were really aware this was a stinker and now they know it's not working. it is just meant to be an obstructive process. it is just a holdup. it is a campaign tool. >> stephanie: it is compromised of things that either were the president's idea that he voted against and campaigned against

you need to know this there is a true progressive alternative to paul ryan's budget was concert representative stole headlines monday when he announced his latest edward scissorhands plan for financing the federal government ryan's path to prosperity proposal for fiscal year two thousand and fourteen includes massive tax breaks for the wealthiest americans and cuts to vital social welfare programs like snap supplemental nutrition assistance program and also a limits obama's obamacare is medicaid expansion and exchange provisions all making no specific offer to cut the tax loopholes the pad the wallets of the super rich you know the year or the middle class killing budget out the republicans in the house but ryan and the ones on the right aren't the only ones working on a plan members of the congressional progressive caucus plan to present their own budget tomorrow march thirteenth in february caucus chair's keith ellison a roll graal of offered an alternative to arbitrary sequester cuts they call it the balance in at balancing act that cut tax breaks for the wealthy. paring down on reasonable

one of the reasons why paul ryan was tapped by mitt romney was to say they wanted to make bold decisions the budget. >> he never fully endorsed congressman ryan's budget. there were nuance when's it talked about the cuts played to medicare as it relates to obama care. >> they can run, it wasn't entirely based upon paul ryan. but in large part, some of the change to medicare, the tax, the big scope of things. you asked about compromise and can paul ryan compromise. the house is putting out their budget. you'll have senate democrats put out their budget and then they'll go to conference. at some point that's where the horse trading is made, where the deal are cut. up until now, paul ryan has yet to end up cutting a deal. he had a great opportunity during the simpson boles commission. he voted against that when many others ended up joining that bipartisan commission that didn't get enough votes to become law. >> let's fast forward. the president has meetings today as we well know. tomorrow, are we, i guess, hearing any inside information on how it's going? >> we're not hearing any inside ju

that's the kind of transportation paul ryan--transformation that paul ryan has talked about.e that this kicks in its hard to know. it's hard to know at the time whether or not he raises the age by a year or two it really doesn't matter. is he going to preserve the basic medicare that existed since 1965. i suspect the answer will be known. >> john: when is a voucher not a voucher. thank you for your time tonight. >> thanks for having me. >> john: we appreciate it. for more on the political slug fest, and whether history will be as kind to his brother as jeb bush would like, i'm joining by joe williams and eric bates. thank you for being here. >> nice being here. >> john: let me start with you professor bates. was there any indication to you that any part of the affordable care act was on the menu? >> not that you could tell. if there was a discussion of the affordable care act it didn't go very well since ryan is back out saying he wants to cut it again. why he's moving in that direction when there was a national referendum on this very issue is hard to tell. but he is clearly

one of paul ryans's big defeats was in '05.member pushing social security privatization. he had a plan so far out there that the bush administration said it would be irresponsible to embrace it, and then of course the bush administration came out with something more modest, arguing -- but they got hugely, hugely rejetted over that. so i think republicans have been quite afraid of social security since then. one more point on this one. when the economy is recovering, there are a lot of cuts you can make that make sense at that point. there are jobs in the economy for people to see. if state and local governments cut back, when you do it in a period of time when many unemployed people for a -- you make the unemployment problem worse, and that is where you get into ryan's point. >> ezra action thank you as always. coming on with a doubleheader of smoke watch and budget season -- >> you haven't even heard my opinions on the smoke. >> and sorry that it didn't happen in this segment. we invite you back. until we get the smoke and a g

>> exactly. >> where is the reality in paul ryan's budget?where is the relate in partt murray's budget? call claire mccaskill and see if she wants to go back to missouri. >> are you guys going to support a trillion dollars in new taxes? if so, we thank you because we are going to win seven seats in 2014. >> you simplify it so much. come on. >> it focuses on paul ryan's budget and let's be honest and say for the seven democrats and the majority in the senate, a trillion dollars in new taxes, that's not realistic either for democrats. >> i would agree but, joe, with all due respect, i like paul too. >> yeah. >> to say you're reappealing the healthy act when -- >> can i ask you a question? willie and i have a question for you. >> yeah. >> is there anybody you don like and respect? >> i'm a christian, joe. >> oh! yes! >> there is good in all. doesn't mean it's a good policy. >> you know, willie? harold had a campaign ad. >> i remember it. >> cue it up. >> do we have this campaign ad? >> i'm going to go to -- >> let's hear what the president has t

i don't think that paul ryan gets extra points for putting a budget on. but a budget for people to work on, this is not that document. you cannot make the center piece of your budget appealing the president's cornerstone, obamacare, and i don't see this as a serious exercise, it's meant to gin up the base and that's the way it should be be covered. >> jon: in the meantime, juan, the president's charm offensive, is it working on the press? >> on the press? oh, gosh, i think that's old news. (laughter) been working for a while. i think that's pretty much an old story. and i think that the press has suggested here that the-- if i was to fault the press on the story, somehow he slow to correlate that the numbers are dropping and republicans succeeded in saying that his leadership is failing he can't get the deal. you can't just blame the republicans. >> jon: abc's jonathan carl had this exchange with jay carney, the presidential spokesman, watch. >> how much is it going to cost for the president to travel later to illinois. >> the president is the president o

house budget chair paul ryan led his committee to a podium where he unveiled his latest if you'll excuse the term path to prosperity. so just how are you going to do it this time, paul? >> we cut wasteful spending. we repair the safety net so that we can help those in need. we protect and strengthen key priorities like medicare. >> john: you don't say. that sounds like a pretty progressive plan for mitt romney's running mate. maybe not. you see the reality is congressman ryan's budget cuts $4.6 trillion in spending over ten years repeals new wall street regulations like dodd frank, without specifying what would or should replace them. replaces medicare with a health insurance subsidy a very nice gift to the private insurance industry and of course, repeals the affordable care act which is always on paul rye -- ryan's greatest hits. didn't paul ryan and and his pal mitt romney lose over issues like healthcare. didn't the voice of the people and a republican-led supreme court count for something? no! according to paul ryan. >> the election didn't go our way. believe me, i know what that fe

the president is reason out to more folks, republicans and others. >> did -- did paul ryan have any asksf the president? >> i can't get into the details of the conversation, chuck, what i can saycy think paul wanted to lay out what he saw as the political context and the policy views of the republicans. and the president, of course, expressed his views and the house democrats, we have always had our budget and we will have a bunnell pet as well. so, there was a conversation about the need to bridge the differences but it's too early to say that there's a clear path to doing that. >> let talk about what we are going to see this week. so we are going to have paul ryan unveil his bunnell threat week. senate democrats are going to do theirs. when do you unveil yours? >> we will the following week. so, we will a week from this wednesday, we will have a democratic alternative. >> will there be a lot of differences between what you and the senate democrats do? >> i don't expect a lot of differences but there will be some. >> look divide between senate democrats and house democrats? >> no, in co

would learn from their mistakes right wrong on tuesday paul ryan announced his plan for the fiscal year two thousand and fourteen federal budget the so-called after prosperity but ignore the name ryan's plan is the policy version of romney's forty seven percent speech if you take away all the talk about reforming entitlements and lean dynamic government it's just a big middle finger to working americans ryan's budget calls for massive cuts to social programs that ensure the health and well being of everyday people all slashing tax rates for the super rich and raising them on the middle class like romney ryan and his republican allies in the house and senate want to tear down the new deal and prop up big business and the rest of us can go to hell or can this really last in the night continue to become the right continue to bash the middle class and hope to win elections in two thousand and eleven americans from all backgrounds and lifestyles took to the streets to protest wealth inequality and a political system beholden to. interests in two thousand and twelve a majority the countr

but where paul ryan has thus far been reluctant, rand paul goes there.d paul raises the social security retirement age, privatizes medicare, and turns medicaid, food stamps, and other social safety net programs into block grants. but not everything is mana for the right flank. rand paul also spends $500 billion less on the military than paul ryan, in order to, as he put it, keep the large military complex of yesterday in check. "fox news sunday" host chris wallace asked the scion of the paul dynasty about his bipolar approach. >> do you think there's room for a realistic, feasible presidential candidate who's to the left of obama on some issues and to the right of paul ryan on other issues? >> i think we have a confusing spectrum. this left/right spectrum doesn't always work for people. >> so, who voted for rand paul's whackadoo semi -- semi apocalyptic vision for the party? senate minority leader mitch mcconnell, john cornyn, and rising star, ted cruz. "newsweek's" david frum makes sense of it all quoting public polling saying, "the out size influence o

caller: i'm watching paul ryan now. he sounds pretty good on tv, but i think a lot of it is grandstanding. they knew this problem was going on a long time. i say bring our troops home. these two parts will destroy this great nation. host: next, we learn, pennsylvania, a democrat. caller: representative ryan's spending budget is terrible, because social security as a medic to do with the deficit, so why mess with social security? we learned that money. i'm 34 years old and wonder if it will be there. host: there are papers talking about this today. caller: they should not do anything to entitlements. every time you cash your check, medicare, social security, all that stuff comes out. so i don't understand where they get the right to take from it. host: you may have heard from the previous caller, but even the president has said in a towel and reforms are something that should be considered and the house and senate as well. caller: i think they are wrong. we pay our taxes for them. that's what we pay for every time we cas

so is paul ryan to go back for a moment. there's a reason why paul ryan is doing this. it's obvious, because he wants to position himself far to the right in the republican primary if in fact he chooses to run three and a half years from now. so that's the real question here. we all know that obama care is the law of the land. we all know that the supreme court has ruled on this. we all know that this is going to be the law of the land at least for the next generation or so. so this is not about policy, this is about politics. the more we talk about that and be real about it, the better off we are. secondly and more importantly here, i respectfully disagree in reference to the messaging war here. i think the republicans have done a very good job of keeping this president on the defense from a financial stand point. every three months we're talking about the fiscal cliff. every three months we're talking about the financial crisis and the president has triedo go around and around the country in a campaign-style way to talk to the american people and that hasn't really wo

because paul ryan's budget i'm like are you kidding me?exibility in terms of sequestration. but obviously we really should just get that also eradicated, and there are very good smart ways to do that, and the budget plan which is obviously next year's budget again, patty murray to her credit is really working hard to get the senate to produce a budget plan. that's a good thing, and i think again when the people what she is doing which protects medicare, versus at the end this just really nasty, harmful, anti-middle class plan that -- that the republicans are rolling out in the house, you know, again if nothing else, public opinion should be i think reengaged to -- to be on our side, and hopefully get people to move. >> stephanie: what about the sequestration? i mean is there any reasonable chance of -- of stopping this? of undoing it? >> my take down it is -- and i have been home talking to a lot of the affected groups there. this thing unfortunately looks like it is going to have to really bite a little bit before people are really going

nancy, good to see you, and andy lowry, the economic policy reporter at the "new york times." >> paul ryan calls his budget the path to prosperity. mitt romney hoped it would be the path to the presidency, but that didn'twork out. ryan will not be deterred. >> i'm proud of our budget because it's changed the conversation. today, we're not talking about cliffs or ceilings or sequesters. we're talking about solutions. that's how it should be. >> forget democrats. could paul ryan be dealing with anger from his own party? i'll ask one of the startest business minds next. >> during the break, tweet me, let me know if you think it's time for republicans to move past the ryan budget, or do you think with the election aside, it's obama and the democratic who need to move. to the globaln we call the internet of everything. ♪ it's going to be amazing. and exciting. and maybe, most remarkably, not that far away. we're going to wake the world up. and watch, with eyes wide, as it gets to work. cisco. tomorrow starts here. for those nights when it's more than a bad dream, be ready. for the times you nee

paul ryan calls his budget the path to prosperity. mitt romney hope ld it would be the path to the presidency. that didn't work out. but ryan will not be deterred. >> i am proud of our budget because it's changed the conversation. today we are not talking about cliffs or ceilings or sequesters. we're talking about solutions. and that's how it should be. >> forget the democrats. could paul ryan be dealing with some anger from his own party? i'll ask one of the sharpest business minds in the senate, republican johnny isakson. that's next. during the break, tweet me. let me know if you think it's time for republicans to move past the ryan budget or with the election aside it's obama and the democrats who need to budge. lobsterfest is the king of all promotions. there's nothing like our grilled lobster and lobster tacos. the bar harbor bake is really worth trying. [ male announcer ] get more during red lobster's lobsterfest. with the year's largest selection of mouth-watering lobster entrees. like our delicious lobster lover's dream, featu

. >> paul ryan is wrong. the greatest threat to medicare is paul ryan. in a major shift, the wisconsin congressman proposes medicare cuts for people over 55. >> our solution to save medicare makes no changes for people 55 or older. >> congressman keith ellison on why ryan's medicare change is bad for america. >>> venezuelan president hugo chavez has died of cancer at the age of 58. what does this mean for u.s. relations? we'll bring you the latest. >>> a civil rights hero wants the washington redskins to change their offensive name. it will take an act of congress to get nfl owners to move on this. >>> the path to citizenship, which i would support -- >> jeb bush flips. >> we can't continue to make illegal immigration an easier path than legal immigration. >> flops. >> i'm for it. >> and flips again. the big panel weighs in on jeb's radical immigration 360. >>> holy cow! >> comedian stephen colbert's sister has her eye on a south carolina house seat. tonight we're talking to democratic candidate elizabeth colbert-busch. good to have you with us tonight, f

just like the old paul ryan budget, the new one comes with giant tax cuts for the richest people in theountry and just like last time, mr. ryan does not say how the government would make up for the trillions in lost revenue. trust him, it's magic. just slash spending and cut tacks and somehow, it all works out. remember how mitt romney got pilloried for this for refusing to say how his tax plan would work? do you remember the website that mocked the romney ryan trust us plan with the button get the details that you just chased all over the screen. do you remember that mitt romney and paul ryan lost because americans voted against them and their no details, we'll tell you later, kill medicare plan for the country? bringing back the plan seals like a weird way to respond to that defeat. republicans seem to think they can try the same thing, only get different results. democrats think this is going to turn out the same. districts response to mr. ryan revealing his budget today was almost gleeful. already, the democrat's campaign has announced plans to how the party will run against 16 repu

somebody, paul ryan put forth a plan that says it is insufficient. if it is insufficient in your eyes where do republicans go? >> where do they go? it is not the ryan way. this is not how you get back into the majority and i want to make a basic point. >> please. >> governments do not create jobs. they only can create jobs in so far as they take resources from the private sector. >> got to get it some where. >> we prefer the jobs from microsoft. >> only happened once in the bible according to my reading. thank you, gang. appreciate it. first and last word interest john. is work wiping you out? no worries. some losses are seaing take a nap on the job. so why doesn't this have a lot of folks sleeping easy? >> i just wanted to make sure you knew that we did start at the usual time this morning. yeah. is isn't a half day or anything like that. thank you orville and wilbur... ...amelia... neil and buzz: for teaching us that you can't create the future... by clinging to the past. and with that: you're history. instead of looking behind... delta is looking b

or paul ryan? >> or george bush. old stale predecessors that -- maybe he's talking about mitch mcconnell. the guy that didn't want him to become his junior senator. i'm not sure who he's talin tal about. i don't have many personal conversations with rand paul. i know barry goldwater went to the senate floor in 1981, you know, after having run for president. the leader of the conservative movement. ronald reagan was now the new president. right? he said something very interesting. he said, i'll paraphrase, i'm tired of these religious groups coming into my office telling -- he said this on the senate floor. telling me that i have to vote a certain way because of their moral authority. he goes, i'll fight them every stret step of the way. this was the leader of the conservative movement. this is the guy they should be actually working after and trying to be like. but instead they're nothing more than little tea party fringe people and they're nuts. they're crazy. >> okay. dana, cpac also heard from senator marco rubio

jon: house budget committee paul ryan taking a bruising in the media. led his third high profile budget this week. well chuck todd of nbc news saying kwroet ryan cynically assumes obamacare is $1,700,000,000 in medicare cuts as a way to balance the budget in ten years despite ryan saying he and romney would restore the cuts during the quote. in a recent editorial paul kru krugman labeled line ryan as a flimflam man. he writes, the good news is mr. ryan's thoroughly unconvincing poly wom to tph-rbonk act seems finally to have worn out its welcome. >> let's welcome kristen tin powers. what about it. what nobody is saying is that the president hasn't put out his own budget as he is required to do by law, he apparently got sidetracked by the sequester and says he needs another couple of months. >> yeah, well he says he will be proposing one, he did propose one last year. if that means anything. jon: which got no votes in the senate. >> exactly. whether the president proposes something or not doesn't change -- doesn't mean we need to give paul ryan a pass on

that's the remarkable thing about the paul ryan budget. i get the sense that a lot of people in the republican party really did want to do something different after the election. they really wanted to take some lessons from that and try to move forward. the problem is they boxed themselves into a corner, basically put so many policy options totally off limits, like anything that would involve raising revenues, that they have nowhere to go other than paul ryan releasing another budget that looks exactly like the last budget. >> and so ari, is time running out on the serious man of budgeting act? you get chris wallace going that's not going to happen. >> when fox news has to be the voice of reason over what happened in november, that's always a bad sign for paul ryan. as for the chairman, i live in brooklyn, i welcome the chairman to brooklyn. i think the problem is -- >> do you know anybody named reince? >> i don't. >> but you know, get a brooklyn phone book. they still have phone books? >> the thing about brooklyn, people don't just listen

among those he met with was house budget committee person paul ryan. ryan said major philosophical issues do remain. >> we have an impasse right now which is the president wants to continue raising taxes, not for deficit reduction, but to fuel more spending, and we see tax reform as an incredibly important goal and policy in getting pro growth economics, getting businesses growing again and hiring people. tax reform to us is an economic growth generating exercise. tax reform to the predecesso pro far seems to be suspending growth ente enterprise. >> eric: joining us now is the anchor o chris wallace. >> instead of the president campaigning and bashing republicans, he actually sat down and talked with them. in terms of substance, i can't say i saw a lot of warming. we talked to paul ryan who will unveil the new republican budget on tuesday. in the bucket he calls for -- in the budget he calls for repeal of obama care. he has tax reform and it would lower rates and use the money for economic growth. the president wants tax reform that would not lower the

here to talk about the plan he unveiled in the house is congressman paul ryan. welcome back to the program. >> great to be back, sean, thanks for having me. >> sean: let me first let you respond to the president. are you going to be spending every year? will your budget spend more money every year or will it spend less money every year than spending-- >> every year will spend more than the next year? >> yeah, i just listened to this for the first time, heard your interview and i think that was george stephanopoulos if the voice was right. >> sean: yes. >> that didn't sound too charming. and every year, 2, 4%, instead of the president's path, which is 5% a year. here is what we're saying, is it so draconian to scale back the increase in spending by 3.4% a year instead of growing by 5% a year over the next decade. the difference, of course, is balancing the budget and getting our debt on a path to being paid off so our children inherited a debt-free nation? i'd also say, balancing the budget helps grow the economy and that's what we're trying to do here. >> sean:

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and that's not what paul ryan has been proposing. what he's been proposing is a radical change, such a radical change that members of his own caucus get terrified when he talks about tinkering with the age at which he implement it. >> john: we learned during the campaign last year with governor romney, they're fond of saying things like no seniors will have their medicare taken away from them. of course, anybody under age 55 would have been hurt by the voucher plan. his budget is scheduled for release next wednesday. he said we shouldn't expect any surprises. so john, could that mean he is going to try again to turn medicare into a voucher program like he floated with governor romney last campaign season? >> i think that there's very little question that he is going to propose a radical change in medicare for people under a certain age be it 55, 56. that radical change, sometimes referred to as premium support and other names is really a voucher program. and it is a program where you say to people we're going to give you a chunk of m