and this ems coordinator, paul savia, i'm not sure if i'm pronouncing it correctly, just detailed instancesd 10th when response time was very difficult to get down because of all these problems. >> how much can all this hurt christie? >> well, look, i think it's a real problem for chris christie, as we were talking about earlier, wolf. he said that he did not know about it, that he'd been misled by his staff. but quite frankly -- and i spoke with former governor tom cain of new jersey, also a republican, who said, look, there are a lot of unanswered questions here, as to the details of this, as to what actually occurred, so there are unanswered questions that people in fort lee want to know a lot about, then there are also unanswered political questions, which is what would drive members of your staff to do something like this out of a political vendetta and what kind of environment is there in the governor's office if, in fact, these people did do what these e-mails seem to point to earlier today. so there are a lot of details that are yet to be known, but i think that this issue of emerge