paul sherman you are a lawyer? >> we litigate across the country one area is the first amendment. we were excited because this raises the most important and answer questions when happens when they regulate occupation complex with free-speech? john: more and more all the time. >> it would have cost him thousands of dollars and taken years of his life for dietitian license. 50 years ago on a 5% a the license from the government now it is 30% and continues to increase. john: you would have to get 900 hours of apprenticeships get the nutrition board said they would monitor. you stop to. because they could put you in jail. >> that is correct. >> i could not give personal advice all the zero by a successfully treat my diabetes with a diet and exercise. john: a harvard nutritionist said it was reasonable. but even if it was stupid, people know there is garbage on the internet. >> id has changed the way people see device. anyone can write a book about nutrition but north carolina said if you want to give one on one device that is forbidden they mean well and want to protect their industry