so i went through all the different castings as paul siegal. and then they changed the pilot so that they have quarters of the way through you find out that i so you know, red would get nervous about having scenes with me like hanging out in his bedroom and -- he adopted me. so i got replaced by sinbad. >> jimmy: how old was sinbad? >> yeah. me and sinbad. i always took my parts. >> jimmy: wow! >> he was like a grown man >> we're really alike. >> jimmy: that's amazing. did you really get to know red? >> oh, yeah. we got very close. he offered me $7,000 if i let him suck my teeth. [ laughter ] >> jimmy: were they in your mouth at the time? >> is that weird? he said i had beautiful teeth. he was joking around. >> jimmy: why 7,000? he didn't mean it? that's a very specific number. >> we were very close. he was very sweet. in the end -- we had some fun transactions. it was the '80s! i don't know what to say. >> jimmy: well, it is very good to see you. i highly recommend the show. ?better things? premieres tomorrow night at 10 on fx. and we shall re