. >> my name is paul simpson. there's a big elephant in the room that no one's commented on. i'm wondering if someone among our esteemed panelists might stand up and respond to this. first of all, i want to say that i appreciate at least stepping in -- ed lee stepping in as the mayor jumped off. we have a situation here where the city takes in $6 billion. it takes in a lot of money. but approximately $1 billion of that are going to employee retirement benefits and current employee benefits. everyone talks about a partnership of labor. that partnership is dysfunctional. is there anyone among our officials that are prepared to stand up and say, during these times, this city has a dysfunctional partnership with organized labor that is one-sided and is draining our coughers and affecting the ability of those that live here with our families in san francisco to drive on our streets, to enjoy our playgrounds, all the playground directers have been terminated, to sharpen our local storeses where the meeters have been increased and the times on them have been reduced and bike lanes h

at least what bolles-simpson did and paul ryan, your budget chairman actually adds $6 trillion to $7 the next ten years. i think you heard when i introduced you. you want to cut $650 billion next year. how are you going to do it? where are you going to take out that battle ax and cut? >> everything is on the table, eliot from nondefense discretionary to defense to, i mean, cuts in every single aspect of government. we've got to get serious. i love this discussion that we always have about subsidies to big, bad oil companies. agreed. they should be gone. but we're talking about $18 billion or so of cuts. i give -- when i ran for congress, i hit both parties over the head for spending us into the abyss. but you got to give the republican party some props for at least having the courage to acknowledge that unless you look at medicaid, medicare and social security, you aren't going to solve this problem. and shame on the president for ignoring that. >> congressman, i interrupt you only because time is so short. i agree with you. the $18 billion and i said this just a moment ago. closing

unfortunately what senator simpson voted for is according to congressman paul ryan who is on the commissiono a $2 trillion tax increase. my argument and the house and senate said no tax increase. obama is busting the bank with spending. spending has to come down. >> you make it sound so simple. americans for tax reform, a taxpayer protection pledge asking members of congress and senate to pledge that they will never, ever, ever raise taxes and they will oppose any elimination of deductions or credits or subsidies unless matched dollar for dollar by further cutting tax deduction. when we talk about ethanol controversy, this is people like senator colburn saying is way to get money back and shrinking that big government that you're talking about. >> i have supported emaim natli the entire ethanol program. he said he supports the mandate. that's the expensive destruction part of the ethanol program and colburn is a cheerleader for it. that's a huge problem. what we need to do is get rid of deductions and credits and do that as ftax reform to have lowr taxes overall. >> what's the real chance o

simpson a republican. you saw five out of the six members of the president's appointees support it, which means that it got 11 votes. very frankly, had paul and mr. camp and mr. hencealing supported it, it would have had 14 out of 18... let me continue. which would have meant then, both senator reid and then speaker pelosi had pledged if they got the 14 out of 18 votes, they would have put it on the floor. was it perfect? nothing's perfect. but it certainly serves as a basis, i think, for bipartisan agreement. >> schieffer: let's see. >> what happened was that the president disavowed his own commission. he put out a budget that did nothing to fix the problem. republicans, since we didn't like all the details in the commission, we took a dozen or so ideas from the commission, put it in our budget. we passed a budget to fix this problem, to pay off the debt, grow the economy, save medicare, fix the social safety net. we put our plan out there. then, the president just launched another commission, the biden commission, which is now underway. we need real leadership on this. steny has exercised leadership, but not every democrat is steny hoye