immigration has blown a hole in her ship so these are subjects that are of course external on paul thurman in europe but which have a direct impact on the electro stability of each country so we will see how things will unfold what will. apart from here of there's also america there is russia everyone is faced with this problem cannot build a wall like mr trump. want but nevertheless when the washington moscow relationship was already in tatters sanctions were flung around and everything has a russian security intelligence services top brass went to the united states to meet with their american counterparts despite the personal sanctions so sure that eve need be to conflate the two sides can still benefit from talking to each other . this is what i'm telling you that is on one hand it is a necessity on the other hand we do not want to show it it is done in a fairly confidential way the intelligence services who are trusting the intelligence services are actually. right after minister of foreign affairs you're kind of doing what the minister of foreign affairs couldn't do. but we work toget