there's what paul wellstone used to call the democratic wing of the democratic party. then there's the establishment wing of the democratic party. wall street and big business. undoubtedly some sort of campaign finance reform or at least a public provision of money for campaigns. we are going to have what we've had. that is a democratic party that is increasingly drinking out of the same trough as the republican party. there's a difference between republicans and democrats, certainly. the difference is not as great as it should be given widening inequality. given the huge problems facing the american middle class and the poor. >> yeah. a lot of interesting ideas. i have to point out, the democrats could have passed raising the minimum wage when they held majority. they didn't do that. now these ideas are pretty much dead on arrival with the conservatives. how do you go about making any of this happen especially when you have a president who has made it clear he's done working with congress. >> first of all, at the state level and even at the city level, there are campa