and paul wharton is here with three of h three lady friends, to tell us all about it. right. >> i'm not. >> i mean holly i'm just not. >> so i know nothing about this most of us watched for many years as the women of sex and the city ran around new york city trying to work out their shortcomings. but one thing they were never short on was finding dates. and in their 30s, fours and 50s it was pretty inspiring. but was it real holly yes do you think it was real? >> to tell us more about what the dating season is really like for single ladies in fabulous 40s and 50s although they all like 25 please welcome kara allen, jenn heck and cookie whiting to the show. hey, ladies. >> hello. thanks for having us. >> thanks for coming you all look beautiful. >> thanks. >> kara, raining men out there or dating desert. >> it's somewhere in the middle i think. >> yeah. >> i enjoy dating. i'm kind of seeing one person right now but normally i always have pair and a spare. >> a pair an spare. >> yes. >> that sounds interesting i heard do you not like dating apps. >> i don't. >> well i fee