david: thank you, paula, great to be with you. paula: thank you.think what is happening on our campuses is abhorrent. kate has no -- hate has no presence in our campus. i have spoken to jewish students who have feared going to class as a result of some of the harassment they are facing. it is unacceptable and we are committed as the department of education to adhering to title vi enforcement from it we have 137 open cases. we take this very seriously. we have increased the number of communications to campuses to make sure they have what they need in terms of the law and best practices on how to make sure. they are protecting students a a lifelong educator, protecting students is our number one responsibility. we take that seriously. antisemitism that we have seen on campus is unacceptable. announcer: on capitol hill this week, educational ceric territory miguel cardona addressed ongoing protests at college campuses and acts of anti-semitism during testimony on the president's for budget request and other issues, including delays with the fafsa appl

paula vennells today? just the truth- and _ paula vennells today? just the truth.ls today? just the truth. and do you _ paula vennells today? just the truth. and do you feel - paula vennells today? just the truth. and do you feel you - paula vennells today? just the | truth. and do you feel you have paula vennells today? just the - truth. and do you feel you have been caettin truth. and do you feel you have been getting that — truth. and do you feel you have been getting that in _ truth. and do you feel you have been getting that in the _ truth. and do you feel you have been getting that in the last _ truth. and do you feel you have been getting that in the last few _ truth. and do you feel you have been getting that in the last few weeks? i getting that in the last few weeks? and when it comes to paula vennells, what do you think her responsibility was towards you? she what do you think her responsibility was towards you?— was towards you? she was in a osition was towards you? she was in a position back _ was towards you? she was in a position back in _ was toward

paula vennells was — testimony from paula vennells.s was chief executive - testimony from paula vennells. pm: vennells was chief executive from 2012 to 2019. that is the latter part of the scandal when former sub—postmasters alleged there was a cover—up, something the post office has denied. the inquiry counsel has been as forensic as always and is focusing on that alleged cover—up, particularly on 2013 when the forensic investigator second sight was preparing their interim report. what we saw today was an e—mail from mark davis. he was the chief of the post office pr and he led this aggressive media campaign. in the e—mail he advised paula vennells that, if in response they were to review past prosecutions, it would, in his words, make front page news. he also added that in media terms it becomes mainstream, very high profile, to which paula vennells responded, you are right to call this out. i will take your spear. here are some of that exchange. our current approach would mean there is going to be some coverage but not very much — t

so, that was paula vennells. — hearing. so, that was paula vennells, we're _ hearing.ak hearing. so, that was paula i vennells, we'rejust a break in hearing. so, that was paula - vennells, we're just a break in the post office it inquiry, but the idea that the former head of the royal mail group and that text message exchange said that, i think you knew, it is a simple but a damning forward statement, which is revealed in that text message to paula vennells from her former colleague. this is something that some postmasters have long claimed. you are watching bbc news, as we watch the post office it inquiry. so, while we pause in that inquiry, and it is because of a leak in the room, we will be coming to it shortly, let's crossover live. i think that concept, the text message from the royal mail group, will be something making the headlines. i'm assuming there is a lot of reaction at the inquiry itself. i there is a lot of reaction at the inquiry itself-— there is a lot of reaction at the inquiry itself. ithink you knew. i mean, inquiry itself. ithink you knew. i mean.

-- paula, i mean, paula is a genius. >> yes. >> seth: it was entire song about a fedex package tracking number? >> yes, james anderson and i wrote a sketch about just the numbers they're singing, and it's kind of like an ode to billy -- >> seth: yeah. >> not billie jean king. it's ode to billy joe, i think is it. nobody cares. >> seth: and paul -- >> ode to billy joel. [ laughter ] >> seth: that's what -- that's what billy joel's new song is called. >> "ode to billy joel." >> "ode to billy joel." >> seth: so paul, last time you were here, you were very honest and i appreciated that. you were talking about how it was the end of a long run of "ant-man" press and you were kind of out of stories. >> yeah. >> seth: and so we provided you the opportunity to just make one up. and um, well, i was wondering if the two of you would like to take this opportunity, right now, to make up a story that didn't happen. >> oh, sure. >> sure. >> seth: great. >> and then you'll just cut that part out so people think it was a real story? >> s

paula, are you telling the truth, paula?ing and surrounded by police officers, paula vennells arrived at the inquiry for the second of her three days of testimony. for the former sub—postmasters who've been watching, her performance so far hasn't been impressive.

today — incompetent, paula vennells? today on— incompetent, paula vennells?her last day of - today on her last day of evidence, she will face questions from lawyers representing sub—postmasters who were wrongly prosecuted or jailed. andy verity, bbc news. at the horizon enquiry. weather forecasters in the us say they expect more and stronger storms than normal during this hurricane season which begins next month. experts at the government's noaa weather service predict above—normal hurricane activity in the atlantic basin with up to 25 named storms, about half of them hurricanes. rick spinrad, from the noaa, said it would be an extraordinary year of hurricanes. 17-25 17—25 named storms with sustained winds of at least 39 mph stock of these, 8—13 are forecast to become hurricanes with maximum sustained winds of at least 7a mph. and 4— seven are forecast to become major hurricanes, that is category 3-5, with hurricanes, that is category 3—5, with maximum sustained winds of at least hundred and 11 mph. of note, the forecast for named storms, hurricanes and major

all i want is paula. the post office. all i want is paula vennells — the post office. to tell the _ the post office. all i want is paula vennells to tell the truth, - the post office. all i want is paula vennells to tell the truth, just - the post office. all i want is paula vennells to tell the truth, just tol vennells to tell the truth, just to say she _ vennells to tell the truth, just to say she does— vennells to tell the truth, just to say she does know _ vennells to tell the truth, just to say she does know and _ vennells to tell the truth, just to say she does know and make - vennells to tell the truth, just to say she does know and make usl vennells to tell the truth, just to - say she does know and make us feel a little bit _ say she does know and make us feel a little bit better. — say she does know and make us feel a little bit better. we _ say she does know and make us feel a little bit better. we are _ say she does know and make us feel a little bit better. we are never- little bit better. we are never going — little bit better. we are never going to _ lit

what do you want to hear from paula vennells in the next three i paula vennells in the next three daysdividual questions, things like when i days? there are lots of individual questions, things like when did l days? there are lots of individual. questions, things like when did she first know that there was remote access to the sub—postmaster is accounts. so the sub—postmistress did not know what was going on in their own computer systems. so they could hardly be blamed for false their own computer systems. so they could hardly be blamed forfalse in those accounts. when did she receive the legal opinion or advice which said fujitsu evidence was completely unreliable? find said fujitsu evidence was completely unreliable? �* ., said fujitsu evidence was completely unreliable? . ., , , said fujitsu evidence was completely unreliable? ., , , ., unreliable? and of course they ran the it unreliable? and of course they ran the w system- _ unreliable? and of course they ran the it system. they _ unreliable? and of course they ran the it system. they did. _ unreliable? and of course they ran the

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best wishes paula , moya green. i don't know paula, moya green. i don't know what to say.w moya . you reply. no, moya, that moya. you reply. no, moya, that isn't the case, she replies. i want to believe you. i ask you twice. i suggested you get an independent review reporting to you. i was afraid you were being lied to. you said the system had already been reviewed multiple times. how could you not have known all over the page and scroll down? moya. the mechanism for getting to the bottom of this is the inquiry. i've made it my priority to support it fully . moya green, the post fully. moya green, the post office did not. they dragged their heels. they did not deliver documents . s they did deliver documents. s they did not compensate people. paula, you appealed the judge's decision. i'm sorry. i can't now support you. i've supported you all these years to my own detriment. i can't support you now. after what i have learned at moya . you'll see in the at moya. you'll see in the course of that exchange that moya greene accuses you of knowing. yes did you understand that to

paula: the investors are mad about the entire situation.n they discuss the pension funds and sovereign wealth funds that gave money to bearings, the investors are bearing for having it in the first place. the firm led many people to jump ship, but there were people that love to bearings. these people sometimes had decades long relationships. up until the point that they jump ship, it was a huge shock to investors, how public and messy the whole situation became. vonnie: and the suddenness of it , if anything it may have been illegal to give anyone a heads up on this. it remains to be seen how these 22 perform at carinthia. it could be a big disaster, could it not? paula: the entire private industry is watching to see what happens. first, can they pull it off? will they have a successful set of loans or returns on the investors and what they end up being? [no audio] vonnie: paula there with our big take and of course, that fantastic private credit story, i would urge everyone to have a read of it on the bloomberg. we just lost paula there at

inside the room, when paula vennells has said things like, i was accused of being too trusting, in factlater saying she was perhaps to trusting of her employees, there were laughs in the room. this often happens when these sub—postmaster, who have been going through this for decades, here the same responses repeatedly and then hear comments which they perhaps were not expecting, but this was a traumatic experience for many of them, so some of them who i have spoken to recently, they said that it's particularly painful because it's particularly painful because it's making them relive exactly everything that they've been through. we are talking about bankruptcy, homelessness, mental health problems, and so for them they are saying that the apologies they are saying that the apologies they are saying that the apologies they are hearing, the moments where we saw paula vennells break down in tears, they don't wash with them. one sub—postmaster told me he found this apologies and these moments rang hollow for him. and so it's mixed emotions. overall, they were not expected to be satisfied by

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this is the e-mail from paula vennells to yourself and - paula vennells to yourself and others, in answer happen as a matter of course, and her answer is, from her husband, exception or anomaly. you can also say conditional except anomaly which only manifests itself under unforeseen circumstances. does that help? and your response was, i like exception very much. was renaming bugs part of a culture that was open to challenge at the post office? the background to this e—mail was that we were _ background to this e—mail was that we were concerned in fact that bugs sounded _ we were concerned in fact that bugs sounded like too much of a slang word _ sounded like too much of a slang word and — sounded like too much of a slang word and we wanted to be serious about— word and we wanted to be serious about how — word and we wanted to be serious about how we approach these issues. the reality— about how we approach these issues. the reality of paula vennells talking — the reality of paula vennells talking to our husband who i believe works _ talking to our husband who i believe works in_ talking

paula vennells, did you put profits before people? paula vennells, did you put profits before maple?ls, did you put profits before people?— before people? arriving at the inuui before people? arriving at the inquiry for _ before people? arriving at the inquiry for the _ before people? arriving at the inquiry for the third _ before people? arriving at the inquiry for the third day - before people? arriving at the inquiry for the third day of- before people? arriving at the inquiry for the third day of her| inquiry for the third day of her testament, paula vennells looked grim faced. but there was good news for the sub—postmaster is protesting outside. a new law means hundreds of people who were wrongly prosecuted had their convictions overturned today. i had their convictions overturned toda . ., had their convictions overturned toda . . ., ., had their convictions overturned toda. . ., ., ~ , today. i am so grateful to the mps and all the — today. i am so grateful to the mps and all the people _ today. i am so grateful to the mps and all the people who _ today. i am so grateful to th

paula, you appeal the judges _ compensate people. paula, you appeal the judges decision.ges decision. i am sorry, i can't now— the judges decision. i am sorry, i can't now support you. i have supported — can't now support you. i have supported you all these years to my

the former boss of the post office, paula vennells, has told the post office inquiry that she is sorry the miscarriage ofjustice of sub—postmasters and she broke down in tears under questioning. the horizon it software wrongly said money was missing from branch accounts and more than 900 sub—postmasters were convicted. ms vennells was chief executive from 2012 to 2019 and today started giving evidence to the inquiry. among the questions to answer: what did she know about the ability of others to remotely access the accounts? for years the post office denied this was possible. the inquiry�*s seen a transcript of a call with a senior lawyer in 2013 which suggests that paula vennells had been briefed about a "covert operations team". also, did she mislead mps in 2015 when she appeared in front of a committee on the issue. and should she have done more to get to the bottom of it? our business correspondent theo leggett has been listening to her evidence so far. his report contains flash photography from the start. any word before you go in ms vennells. at the heart of a bitter scandal. and

paula vennells there. and earlier she broke down in tears at the inquiry as she apologised for telling mps the business was successful. in every court case against subpostmasters . she also against subpostmasters. she also said sorry to those affected, but denied there was a conspiracy to cover up any wrongdoing . wrongdoing. >> i fully accept now that the post office excuse me . the post office excuse me. the post office knew that i completely accepted personally. i didn't know that, and i'm incredibly sorry that that happened to those people to and so many others . others. >> as we heard at the top of the programme, conservative mp craig mackinlay has made his first appearance in parliament today , appearance in parliament today, eight months after contracting sepsis. this was the moment he received a standing ovation in the . house of commons. oh well. the. house of commons. oh well. he had extreme surgery to remove both his hands and feet, and was given a 5% chance of survival after being put in a coma

what can you tell us paula all right. so they've received a note from the jury and it contains four different requests. we're getting these live updates. they're coming in and real-time from our colleagues. one of the requests is one, the jury requests david pecker's testimony regarding the phone conversation with donald trump while pecker was and they're there might feel typo here was in a meeting. so this is something that we have signaled. they might ask for is specific portions of testimony from key witnesses because they do have a laptop that container he's lot of the documents at the heart of this case, but they don't have transcripts from witness testimony. and obviously this case in many ways, as heavily reliant on the testimony of witnesses. so fully expected that they would come back and ask for additional portions of testimony. here. they're asking for a specific portion of testimony from david pecker. now, another one of the requests was pecker's testimony 20 regarding the trump tower meeting. now there is ano

just to ensure that we are on the same page, paula _ ensure that we are on the same page, paula wouldould like to say we have agreed the following with second sight _ agreed the following with second sight. can you confirm you agree? the investigation reports on a couple — the investigation reports on a couple of— the investigation reports on a couple of empty's cases by summer recess _ couple of empty's cases by summer recess by— couple of empty's cases by summer recess by using those cases you will answer— recess by using those cases you will answer the — recess by using those cases you will answer the question, have systemic defects— answer the question, have systemic defects in_ answer the question, have systemic defects in the horizon system resulted — defects in the horizon system resulted in the wrongful conviction or suspension of sub—postmaster is? by by this stage, had their proposal we saw at _ by this stage, had their proposal we saw at the _ by this stage, had their proposal we saw at the first thing this morning to examine — saw at the first thing this morning to examine

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cnn's paula hancocks is falling. all these developments and joins us now live from abu dhabi. we should say state media has officially declared that their presence i didn't has died and we have not heard again from the supreme leader, but just if you can bring us right up to date on what happened in any reaction that you have coming in we'll pull away now, do know that nine people on board that helicopter lost their lives in the eastern azerbaijan province we know that the president was on board. >> the foreign minister. we understand the governor of that province also, an imam of friday prayers of that province along with security, the pilots, the crew, nine people in, all, went down with that helicopter. now you have mentioned the dire weather conditions. it took rescue teams around 16 hours to be able to locate and get to that area itself. the rescue teams were unable to put a helicopter into the air. they said because of the weather conditions, the fact that the okc was so thick visibility was very limited. we also heard from the rescue teams that there were sub-zero tempe

will you take responsibility, ms paula vennells?— paula vennells? years of keeping a _ paula vennells? after years of keeping a low _ paula vennells? after years of keeping a low profile, - paula vennells? after years of keeping a low profile, paula i keeping a low profile, paula vennells was thrust into the spotlight this week, and making her way through a scrum of cameras may have been the easy part. she started with an apology. i have been the easy part. she started with an apology-— with an apology. i would “ust like to sa - with an apology. i would “ust like to say - and i with an apology. i would “ust like to say - and m h with an apology. i would “ust like to say - and i'm grateful_ with an apology. i would just like to say - and i'm grateful for- with an apology. i would just like to say - and i'm grateful for thel to say — and i'm grateful for the opportunity to do this in person — how sorry i am for all the sub— postmasters and their families, and others who suffered as a result of all of the matter is that the enquiry has been looking int

just remind our viewers why paula vennells's testimony is so crucial to this ongoing inquiry.so crucial to this ongoing inquiry.— to this ongoing inquiry. this is a moment the _ to this ongoing inquiry. this is a moment the victims _ to this ongoing inquiry. this is a moment the victims had - to this ongoing inquiry. this is a moment the victims had been i to this ongoing inquiry. this is a - moment the victims had been waiting forfour moment the victims had been waiting for four years. moment the victims had been waiting forfour years. as you moment the victims had been waiting for four years. as you said, moment the victims had been waiting forfour years. as you said, it is a first time she is going to speak publicly about the scandal in nearly a decade. not only is she going to talk about it, she is going to be grilled on it over the course of three days to understand what she knew, but crucially when, because victims are alleging a cover—up that prolonged a scandal for years. that is something the post office has consistently denied. paula vennells was chief executive from

after three days of testimony, paula venables left flanked after three days of testimony, paula venellseft flanked by police, the end of another major chapter in one of the biggest scandals the uk has ever seen. theo leggett, bbc news. earlier i spoke to former sub—postmaster, tim brentnall to gauge his reaction to paula vennell�*s evidence. i thought she might approach proceedings with some openness and contrition but it's just more of the same from what we've come to see from post office witnesses at the inquiries. lies and deflections. she made 20 apologies. that wasn't enough and she said she was not responsible for everything. i suppose what they are trying to establish is who knew what and who is responsible, who is taking responsibility in all of this? who is more responsible in a company than the ceo? she was quite prepared to take the salary for the year she the salary for the years she was in that position but when anything awkward was put to her, she to her, she seemed to deny she was across the detail of absolutely anything. how do you feel more generally about this inquiry

were you incompetent, paula vennells?e, ms vennells will face questions from the lawyers representing subpostmasters who were wrongly prosecuted or jailed. andy verity, bbc news, at the horizon inquiry. this is an important day for those people who were wrongly convicted? it really is. we always knew it was going to be an important few days at the inquiry but what nobody really knew was that by today, the names of the wrongfully convicted sub—postmasters would be cleared. it is only because the election was called which leaves limited parliamentary time, the parties agree on which laws get priority and this post office bill was deemed to be one of the most important so it passed parliament yesterday and will get royal assent today. it means the majority of wrongly convicted sub—postmasters will today officially have their convictions cleared, their names will be cleared. i should stress it only applies to england and wales. it does not apply to scotland because it has its own legal system and a separate law will be needed

hi paula, can we have a word at some point _ paula, can we have a word at some point today— paula, cand at some point today to discuss this and specifically how far we go in terms of the _ specifically how far we go in terms of the wording below. i am sending this of the wording below. i am sending thisjust _ of the wording below. i am sending thisjust to— of the wording below. i am sending thisjust to you of the wording below. i am sending this just to you at this stage. i am very concerned that we may get into a position. _ very concerned that we may get into a position, sorry, get to a position. _ a position, sorry, get to a position, where we go so far in our commitments that we actually feel the story— commitments that we actually feel the story and turn it into something bigger— the story and turn it into something bigger than it is. i am not at all complacent about the issues but there _ complacent about the issues but there is— complacent about the issues but there is a — complacent about the issues but there is a real danger in going too far irr— there is a real danger in goin

paula, are you really- telling the truth, paula?ey moment in the scandal — when the independent investigation by second sight is under way. i was not trying to close anything down. it's really important that i say that. it's 2013, and second sight were about to issue their interim report on the horizon it problems hitting branch accounts, and the post office is debating how to respond. the inquiry saw this e—mailfrom the head of post office communications. then, in paula's reply e—mail... you did take the advice of the pr guy, didn't you? i really don't remember it relating to the decision... groaning hang on, please. thank you. if this review had actually taken place, would it have avoided a lost decade for miscarriages of justice to be discovered? it may well have done. this is susan crichton — she was post office top lawyer then, but she was sent out from the board meeting that soon followed. she had been due to present a paper about past prosecutions. what would you say to the suggestion that this is the executive team shielding

"i think you knew," says moya, to which paula replies, "that isn't the case."have known?" before saying, "i supported you all these years". adding, "i can't support you now". and then she was asked about the case of subpostmaster martin griffiths, who took his own life after the post office ruined him. and i imagine that... i'm sorry. i imagine that i was probably... just pause. yes, ok. try to compose yourself if you can and then continue your evidence, please. thank you. she apologised to alan bates, too. she said he was right to persevere. i wonder about these apologies. these are just words. the big problem at the moment is trying to get money for the victims in all of this, and anything that does that will make a real difference, rather than a few words. and here is another thing. when paula vennells first joined the post office in 2007 as a director, she said it was another five years before she found out they did their own private prosecutions. and the inquiry heard that when she left herjob in 2019, she still believed there had not been any miscarriages

paula, the uk foreian hamas, come what may. paula, the uk foreign secretary _ hamas, come what may. what may. paula, the uk foreign secretary has been _ hamas, come what may. paula, the uk foreign secretary has been speaking, l foreign secretary has been speaking, lord cameron has been talking to our colleague laura kuenssberg and has been defending the government's decision not to stop the export licences of arms, not to withdraw those export licences of sending arms to israel.— those export licences of sending arms to israel. , , . , arms to israel. yes, his argument is that he does — arms to israel. yes, his argument is that he does not _ arms to israel. yes, his argument is that he does notjust _ arms to israel. yes, his argument is that he does notjust want _ arms to israel. yes, his argument is that he does not just want to - arms to israel. yes, his argument is that he does notjust want to be - arms to israel. yes, his argument is that he does notjust want to be in l that he does notjust want to be in the business of sending messages, he wants to be exerting real pressure. it

paula, are you really telling the truth, paula?dependent investigation by second sight is under way. i was not trying to close anything down. it's really important that i say that. it was 2013, and second sight were about to issue their interim report on the horizon it problem hitting branch accounts, and the post office is debating how to respond. the inquiry saw this e—mail from the head of post office communications. "if we say publicly that we'll look at past cases, we will open this up very significantly into front—page news," adding, "it would have the ballistic impact." then, in paula's reply e—mail, "you are right to call this out, and i will take your steer, no issue." you did take the advice of the pr guy, didn't you? i really don't remember it relating to the decision... groaning hang on, please. thank you. - if this review had actually taken place, would it have avoided a lost decade for miscarriages ofjustice to be discovered? it may well have done. this is susan crichton — she was post office's top lawyer then, but sh

as you can see, paula vennells, she doesn't appear like a normal corporate baddie.they have very little sympathy for her. —— for many of the sub—postmasters. it sympathy for her. -- for many of the sub-postmasters.— sub-postmasters. it wasn't until that itv drama _ sub-postmasters. it wasn't until that itv drama that _ sub-postmasters. it wasn't until that itv drama that this - sub-postmasters. it wasn't until that itv drama that this really i sub-postmasters. it wasn't until i that itv drama that this really came to prominence and today, another real kind of landmark moment where those convictions were quashed in parliament. do you think we would have got to this stage if that drama had happened? i have got to this stage if that drama had happened?— had happened? i don't think we would. had happened? i don't think we would- the _ had happened? i don't think we would. the wheels _ had happened? i don't think we would. the wheels of _ had happened? i don't think we would. the wheels ofjustice i had happened? i don't think we i would. the wheels ofjustice were turning

both teams of attorneys here, paula. but i'm curious reyes, as to what you understand the strategy of trump's team wasn't me. that was a two-and-a-half-hour. a closing argument, right. did they did they think that was going to be short relative to what the prosecution is going to is doing right now, or do you think they're surprised? hi, by the length of this prosecution close yeah. >> i think they are earlier today, as we reported, they expected to go about two-and-a-half, three hours because they believe that's about as long as any juror wants to hear from the lawyer and closing, i top-line stuck pretty close to that. he was around three hours. but they had another goal and that was to prevent joshua steinglass from going into who tomorrow. so they were trying to keep it short enough that assigned glass did try to draw this out too long. >> it would annoy the jury now, with some help from the jurors, who are willing to stay late. >> hey, tonight and the judge, it appears that this will likely wrap today, but they have

and paula vennells responded, i will take your stay.ecision making. i believe the inquiry is still going on and we have come to her queue a lot more about this alleged cover—up so it's worth taking a listen. it would be sensible to tell alice first and — it would be sensible to tell alice first and she wondered if susan was overreacting and she could be right. she will— overreacting and she could be right. she will undoubtedly make the legal case against it and emotionally she might— case against it and emotionally she might throw in the towel if we press ahead _ might throw in the towel if we press ahead it _ might throw in the towel if we press ahead. it might also be a way of saying _ ahead. it might also be a way of saying she — ahead. it might also be a way of saying she can't cope with more pressure — saying she can't cope with more pressure. if she leaves in the short term _ pressure. if she leaves in the short term it _ pressure. if she leaves in the short term it witt— pressure. if she leaves in the short term it will be a majo

paula, thank you very much. and here we are 707 and they're coming back into the courtroom. and it's going to continue. all right. so our experts are here as they're coming back into the courtroom. i just want to start ryan, this allen charge that paul is breaking reporting here. this concern that to trump team has that is this wraps up tonight that their biggest threat could be this allen charge. >> i think that's right. if i were them, i'd be very concerned about it because i think right now they're getting for one or two jurors as the holdouts who then could hang hang a jury. but if they get this kind of charge and they are forced to get a consensus of all the jurors agreeing that puts the pressure on super majority of the jurors being in favor of a conviction. i think that's right. >> they cave on the ones who would be the ones that would cause a mistrial would would kill steve on a few counts, especially if it's only one juror that's a holdout. >> they're much more willing to then bend to the super majority

i'm just going to bring paula in because i. paula dunng bring paula in because i.ether or not you thought there was such a thing. now, you do think there's such a thing. >> i do think i think a lot of muslims, it's almost like they're very pack like and brotherhood like for christians. we don't all vote the same way. but i think when a lot of people go to pray, like their friday prayers, their sort of influence to do certain things. so yeah, i do think i do think so. and i feel like if someone that's pretty powerful in the mosques says , oh, all of you need to says, oh, all of you need to vote for this independent now, because labour haven't called for a ceasefire now or etc, etc. they will do as they're told, whereas christians wouldn't do that and a vicar wouldn't try to tell someone what way to vote. but in a mosque, i believe some people would. yes. >> i mean, raqib is that is that your take on that? >> well, i think the big trend in terms of christianity in the uk is that it's been on a steadily downward trajectory. and i actually think as a muslim, i think th

paula, are you really telling the truth, paula?ey moment in the scandal — when the independent investigation by second sight is under way. i was not trying to close anything down. it's really important that i say that. it was 2013, and second sight were about to issue their interim report on the horizon it problem hitting branch accounts, and the post office is debating how to respond. the inquiry saw this e—mailfrom the head of post office communications. then, in paula's reply e—mail... you did take the advice of the pr guy, didn't you? i really don't remember it relating to the decision... groaning hang on, please. thank you. - if this review had actually taken place, would it have avoided a lost decade for miscarriages ofjustice to be discovered? it may well have done. this is susan crichton — she was post office's top lawyer then, but she was sent out from the board meeting that soon followed. she had been due to present a paper about past prosecutions. what would you say to the suggestion that this is the executive team shiel

i thought she miaht paula venables's evidence?e might approach proceedings with some openness and contrition but it's just more of the same from what we've come to see from post office witnesses at the inquiries. the we've come to see from post office witnesses at the inquiries.- witnesses at the inquiries. the lies and deflections. _ witnesses at the inquiries. the lies and deflections. she _ witnesses at the inquiries. the lies and deflections. she made - witnesses at the inquiries. the lies and deflections. she made 20 i and deflections. she made 20 apologies. that wasn't enough and she said she was not responsible for everything. i suppose what they are trying to establish is who knew what and who is responsible, who is taking responsibility in all of this? ~ ., taking responsibility in all of this? ., , ., taking responsibility in all of this? .,, ., ,, taking responsibility in all of this? ., , ., , , ., this? who is more responsible in a coman this? who is more responsible in a company than _ this? who is more responsible i

paula, are you really- telling the truth, paula?out a key moment in the scandal — when the independent investigation by second sight is under way. i was not trying to close anything down. it's really important that i say that. it's 2013, and second sight were about to issue their interim report on the horizon it problems hitting branch accounts, and the post office is debating how to respond. the inquiry saw this e—mailfrom the head of post office communications. "if we say publicly that we'll look at past cases, we will open this up very significantly into front—page news," adding, "it would have the ballistic impact." then, in paula's reply e—mail, "you are right to call this out, and i will take your steer, no issue." you did take the advice of the pr guy, didn't you? i really don't remember it relating to the decision... groaning. hang on, please. thank you. if this review had actually taken place, would it have avoided a lost decade for miscarriages ofjustice to be discovered? it may well have done. this is susan crichton — she

paula goodness me. >> right . paula you've chosen >> right. paula you've chosen this story.in under caution for her tax affairs. and the mirror are launching a bit of a fightback on her behalf, questioning the tax status of four conservative mps , probably four conservative mps, probably the most famous of whom is maria miller. but the person who stands to have gained the most, david tredinnick, who had a £2 million profit, so what is what is the paper alleging here? hypocrisy, i suppose . hypocrisy, i suppose. >> well, this story angela obviously, clearly wants it to go away and it's not going anywhere. and obviously that is upset. her so it's probably why the mirror are now are talking about tory mps just to deflect. but, i mean she'll be interviewed in the next couple of weeks under caution and she's also said, obviously she wanted bons also said, obviously she wanted boris johnson to resign when he was under police investigation and she should have just published her tax dossier because she's asked other people to do that. then she wouldn't have to be under investigation

let's go straight to cnn's paula reid, who was outside the courthouse in manhattan and and paula, we'll talk about costello in a second. he's on the he's on the stand right now making his displeasure known with some of the rulings. but explained to us exactly how cohen's stole this money from the trump organization. he admitted doing this and why it could impact the prosecution's case well, he stole this money by line to allen weisselberg about what he should be reimbursed for. >> their is a tech company called red finch. and he said that he had paid them $50,000 hello so when we thought at critical piece of evidence with allen weisselberg and cohen was sat down to sort of hash out how much he should be reimbursed. the hundred and $30,000 he paid stormy and yells plus this money for red finch. what cohen revealed on the stand is that he actually skimmed 60% of that. let's take a look at how todd blanche elicited this from cohen on the stand. here, blanche asked him, he said, so the $50,000 that you got back from red finch, you only actually paid the red finch owner $20,000, right? cohen

at one point today paula vennells said the words my recollection is i don't recall. for several of them were here today, they have said the are reliving everything and one thing that really stands out is that no matter how many times you talk to them about the stories, whether it's to do with bankruptcy or criminal records in prison sentences, they still tear up as they start talking about this. and sitting in that room with paula vennells, they want answers, they want full accountability but it isn't going to give them the years back. . ~ , ., ., ., ~ , back. thank you for taking us throu~h back. thank you for taking us through today's _ back. thank you for taking us through today's evidence. - back. thank you for taking us | through today's evidence. let back. thank you for taking us - through today's evidence. let me tell you we will be back on the campaign trail in a moment and we will be talking live to conservatives on this programme but before that let's just take a few minutes catching up with some of the other news that is making headlines today in the uk. a

cnn's paula reid, is that the court but in manhattan, paula, today the defense got its first crack at questioning michael cohen and they came out swinging they sure did jake everything cohen has said about trump i can and will be used against him in this cross-examination under this intense questioning from todd blanche cohen was painted as someone who is obsessed with trump, the defense attorneys brought up the fact that prosecutors have asked cohen multiple times to stop talking about this case, and he would not. >> they also laid out how he has profited from his relentless attacks on the defendant, including millions of dollars that he has received for his book deals for his part, cohen caught too much of this up. you're pretty steady on the stand though, as i'm sure you saw todd blanche was really jumping around a lot to a lot of different leinz of questioning and told this was tactical. his cohen's that year long preparation shin with prosecutor but here, defense attorneys trying to knock him off his game tomorrow, there's no court jake, the last time the trunk defense team had a

"i think you knew," says moya, to which paula replies, "that isn't the case." moya then asks, "how could you not have known?" before saying, "i supported you all these years". adding, "i can't support you now". and then she was asked about the case of subpostmaster martin griffiths, who took his own life after the post office ruined him. and i imagine that... i'm sorry. i imagine that i was probably... just pause. yes, ok. try to compose yourself if you can and then continue