paula jones had some public lawyers.nd you remember, this was a big fight that went all the way up to the supreme court about whether the suit could even proceed. and in the briefs, you know, the clintons had this big you know, bob bennett, really powerful law firm behind it. and they were always amazed when they would see these very polished, very scholarly briefs coming in from the paula jones side saying these guys can't be writing it, the public lawyers, because they were not constitutional scholars. in fact it was the elves, and peter smith had helped to recruit them. >> mike, thank you for being with us. i'm sorry that our time is short. may i ask you briefly one last question. do you know what he has been up to since the '90s? >> i had totally lost track of him until shane harris had brought him back? >> your 1990 book, uncovering clinton is now selling out on amazon. michael isikoff, chief investigative reporter, really appreciate you being here. >> just one question. what have you been up to since the '90s? >> y

paula jones had some public lawyers, and you remember this was a big fight that went all the way up toreme court about whether the suit could even proceed. and in the briefs, you know, clinton had this big, you know, bob bennett, really powerful law firm behind it, and they were always amazed when they would see these very polished, very scholarly briefs coming in from the paula jones side, saying these guys can't be writing it, the public lawyers, because they were not constitutional scholars. in fact, it was the elves, this coterie of lawyers, and they had been -- and peter smith had helps recruit them. >> mike, thank you for being with us tonight. i'm sorry that our time is short. may i ask you briefly one last question? do you know what he's been up to since the '90s? >> i had totally lost track of him until shane harris resurrected him in this fascinates series of stories. >> your 1999 book, uncovering clinton, is now selling out right this second on amazon because he has resurfaced. michael isikoff, really appreciate you being here. thanks very much. >> okay. >> that does it for

she gives those tapes to paula jones, lawyers and ken starr's office.t the president has to give a deposition in the jones case. >>art of the danger for the president lies in what he said under oath to lawyers for paula jones. mr. clinton denied in his deposition having a sexual relationship with monica lewinsky. >> did the president agree with monica lewinsky to deny their affair under oath? >> if the president, in fact, encouraged this woman to lie under oath or ask someone else to encourage her, that's a a crime. >> it is a different order of magnitude than what the white house has had to put up with over the past several years. >> there was a how coming up in the media, and from republicans. people were horrified of this. it was overpowering. >> i want you to listen to me. i'm going to say this again. i did not have sexual relations with that woman. miss lewinsky, i never told anybody to lie, not a single time. never. these allegations are false, and i need to go back to work for the american people. thank you. [ applause ] >> i think from the very

linda tripp gives those tapes to paula jones' lawyers and kenneth starr's office. resident has to give a deposition in the jones case. >> part of the danger for the president lies in what he said under oath to lawyers for paula jones. mr. clinton denied in his deposition having a sexual relationship with monica lewinsky. >> did the president agree with monica lewinsky to deny their affair under oath? >> if the president, in fact, encouraged this woman to lie under oath or ask someone else to encourage her, that's a crime. >> it's a different order of magnitude than many of the previous charges that the president had to put up with for seven years. >> what the white house is in for is another legal nightmare. >> hey, ho, clinton's got to go. hey, ho, clinton's got to go. >> this was a howl coming up in the media and from republicans. people were horrified after this. it was overpowering. >> i want you to listen to me. i'm going to say this again. i did not have sexual relations with that woman, miss lewinsky. i never told anybody to lie. not a single time. never. the

paula jones is a loser but the fact is she may be responsible for bringing down a president indirectly. that statement was a bad statement to have been made. it has proven to be false. >> which statement was that? >> the paula jones in the deposition. >> when he denied it. >> i think his little speech after, i'm not sure he shouldn't have said i don't get along with him. she he is a republican. it is a terrible thing but he probably should have done it. i don't think he could have done any worse. i see him walking around. it's a terrible embarrassment. >> where is he doing? up or down? >> i think the best thing he can do is tread water for two years. i think he can maybe tread the office and just tread. it may be worse than that. i believe the best he can do is tread water. >> did you ever have a flicker and say donald trump, you won every battle you have ever wont. >> people want me to all of the time. >> what do you think? >> think about him with the women. how about me with the women? >> the next was hardball college tour at his alma mater at the university of pennsylvania. even bac

paula jones is a loser, but she may be responsible for bringing down a president indirectly, and that statement was a bad statement to have been made, and it's proven to be false. >> which statement was that? >> the paula jones in the deposition, which really started this. >> when he denied it, if you're in a hole stop digging? you walk away and say i'm not going to deal. i'm going to drop this line? >> i think the speech after was a disaster. it wasn't the right tone. i'm not sure he should have done it. i'm not sure he shouldn't have just taken the fifth amendment and said i don't get along with this man star. he's a republican and after me. and taken the fifth amendment. it's a terrible thing for a president to take the fifth amendment, but he probably should have done it. i don't think he could have done any worse than what's happened. it's an embarrassment to him. i see him walking around, it's a terrible embarrassment. >> is he going up or down? >> i think the best he can do is tread water for two years. i think he can tread and maybe keep the office and just tread and get out a

>> the paula jones in the deposition which really started it. >> and denied it. if you're in a hole, stop digging. you walk away from the deal and say i'm not dealing anymore. >> i think his little speech after was a disaster. i'm not sure he should have done it. i'm not sure he should have just gone in and said i don't get i know what this man, starr. he's after me. he's a republican. he's this. he's that and taken the fifth amendment. it is a terrible thing for a president to take the fifth amendment but he should have double it. i don't think he could have done any worse. it is such an embarrassment to him. i've seen him walking around. it is such an embarrassment. >> where is he going? up or down? >> i think the best he can do is tread water for two years. i think he can maybe keep the office and tread and get out as opposed to someone who got out in a harsh manner. it may be worse than that. >> did you ever have a flicker when you were taking a shower, waking up in the morning, donald trump, you've won every battle you ever fought. maybe i should run for gov

i'm sorry. >> paula jones in the deposition. which really started this whole thing. >> when he denied it. which is when you're in a hole you stop digging. at a certain point you walk away from the deal and say i'm going to drop this line. >> i think his little speech after was a disaster. i'm not sure he should have done it. i'm not sure he should have just gone and taken the fifth amendment and said i don't get along with this man, starr. he's after me. he's a republican. he's this. he's that and taken the fifth amendment. it is a terrible thing for a president to take the fifth amendment but he should have done it. i don't think he could have done any worse than what's happened. it's such an embarrassment to him. i see him walking around. it's like a terrible embarrassment. >> where is he going? up or down? >> i think the best he can do is tread water for two years. i really believe that. i think he can tread. i think he can maybe keep the office and tread and get out as opposed to nixon who got out in a rather harsh manner. i

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issues right now with this russia scandal and then you had a president going through a scandal, paula joneser and you had impeachment and monica lewinsky and all of that, and bill clinton talked to the press. he would even have, what do you call it, carnivals for the press. this president looks at us as the opposition party. >> right. >> so it's an interesting dynamic from 20 years ago versus now. >> such a contrast, and the response by each president. >> most definitely. >> to what they're facing behind the scenes. april, stand by. you've been in the thick of it when it comes to the current president's battles with the media as you start to discuss there. you'll be back with us in a moment and first, don't miss, bill clinton, the comeback kid. revisiting the press didency th defined a decade, "the nineties" only here on cnn. well, if a lot of people jumped off a bridge, would you? you hungry? i'm okay right -- i'm... i'm becoming my, uh, mother. it's been hard, but some of the stuff he says is actually pretty helpful. pumpkin, bundling our home and auto insurance is a good deal! like buyin

he went from whitewater which was not anything to paula jones which was a lot of money about, a million dollars. then he goes to good old monica lewinsky and nails the president. so they don't quit. they metastasize these guys. they grow, they grow, they grow until they find some dirt and they light up and their career is made for them and they announce in a press conference, i daughter dicaught the dirty d. they don't ever say, clean as a hounds tooth. they never do that. >> the president has been looking over his shoulder. >> the mooch provides the bright shining object. that everybody he will talk about. meanwhile there are other things being laid. what is interesting is now the senate is upping its game. you heard today, senator mccain and others talk about do not touch. >> do not touch the special prosecutor and do not touch the attorney general. the president is trying to figure out which lane will get him to his ultimate goal, to remove both those gentlemen at the end of the day. >> we're destroying something larger here. >> the white house is now a locker room. right? you can't

paula jones leads the monica. how do you say you'll investigate the meetings with russia? hotels, the miss universe, the whole shebang? how do you say you won't ask for his tax returns if you're going to answer those questions? it seems the red lines will be crossed by the nature of the probe that he's been assigned to. >> yes. someone who president trump is not a big fan of right now. james comey said, when you start the investigation when you start turning over rocks. you might find some things. the idea that he can somehow limit what mueller will be able to look into. that just seems unlikely and unreasonable. this is a special counsel. if he finds something that he thinks is interesting or illegal, you would think he could have a moral responsibility to go after it. >> same question to you. i'm going down the road here to where mueller is going. starting with carter page and all the others and all the meetings and the e-mail and everything suggesting one side trying to start a relationship if the other side. all the finances things we learned. that mr. manafort may owe

from paula jones to what is her name in the white house -- >> lewinski. >> lewinski.s guy could go here from tax returns to the business dealings with russia, possible money-laundering. everything with the trump enterprise. and trump doesn't want a guy doing that. because that guy could be working harder than he is with better people. and he has to stop this thing. this is an existential threat. >> you agree? >> i don't know if he has to stop. >> you think this is a threat? >> anything on the president is a threat. >> history shows they dot job. >> i agree with you. i'm on record saying i think he will try to fire mueller. we will see what happens. >> i'm on with you with that. i don't see how he stops. thank you. phrase overused by the way. >> sounds like john mclaughlin. >> yeah. a threat to his existence as president. >> cut him loose. >> he said be nice. thank you, mike. an honest man as often as he can be. thank you, eugene. >>> he will slash their benefits if they can't send them a health care bill. but can republicans and democrats pass legislation? we'll see.

but that led to paula jones which led to monica lewinsky. this stuff metastasizes. i'm sure this president is not stupid enough, he must know these things can blow up. even if he didn't do anything wrong. that's an even if. and they'll find something did he do wrong. and he knows mule her find it if it's there. >> what i think we've learned is that trump does not think four steps ahead. he thinks what he can do to get out of the predicament. now he got out of a lot of predicaments that no one expected on the campaign trail. >> he has to cut the fuse. the fuse is coming to him. >> he is in a whole different infrastructure now. he is used to being in the corporate world. >> he's never feared something like this. total national humiliation after becoming president of the united states. it is a real fear. i don't think he can get it out of his head in the middle of the night. he's thinking sessions at 4:00 in the morning. i think that's the phone call that keeps ringing in his ears. this guy is coming after you. he has the best resume i've ever seen of anyone in america

. >> so keith jones, i ran into him, we were hugging and stuff, you know, bro hugs, stuff like that. this is before the downpour. and all the sudden on the big monitor paulago oh, my god, i hope she's not around here. because she -- i did something on a national tv show, and she still hasn't forgiven me. >> what did you do? >> it was weird. it was bad. >> well, it is you. >> i inch tow mated she had gone to the bathroom. well, it was just bad. anyway if you're in a hotel roomy an apologize, trying to be funny and it wasn't fun. >> i all the years she wag doing the fox shows, doing all of the stuff, the first time i've heard this store. >> i that story probably ten years in the making. >> first time you apologized or did you try when it happened? >> uh, i was so scared of her. she made a repeat appearance on our show. i hid behind the scenes and i had my co-anchor do the interview. >> that's how -- >> that's how scared i was. >> did she have choice words for you? >> choice words, yes. >> i was just kidding. i don't want to get it started up in case she is watching from her ritz carlton hotel rumor where ever she staying. hi, paula, i love you, and i'm sore