linda tripp gives those tapes to paula jones' lawyers and kenneth starr's office. dent has to give a deposition in the jones case. >> part of the danger for the president lies in what he said under oath to lawyers for paula jones. mr. clinton denied in his deposition having a sexual relationship with monica lewinsky. >> did the president agree with lewinsky to denye -- deny their affair under oath? >> if the president, in fact, encouraged this woman to lie under oath or ask someone else to encourage her, that's a crime. >> it's a different order of magnitude than any of the previous charges that the president had to put up with for seven years. >> what the white house is in for is another legal nightmare. >> hey, ho, clinton's got to go. hey, ho, clinton's got to go. >> this was a howl coming up in the media and from republicans. people were horrified after this. it was overpowering. >> i want you to listen to me. i'm going to say this again. i did not ve sexual retions with that woman, miss lewinsky. i never told anybody to lie. not a single time. never. these alle

linda tripp gives those tapes to paula jones' lawyers and kenneth starr's office. nt has to give a deposition in the jones case. >> part of the danger for the president lies in what he said under oath to lawyers for paula jones. mr. clinton denied in his deposition having a sexual relationship with monica lewinsky. >> did the president agree with lewinsky to deny their affair under oath? >> if the president, in fact, encouraged this woman to lie under oath or ask someone else to encourage her, that's a crime. >> it's a different order of magnitude than any of the previous charges that the president had to put up with for seven years. >> what the white house is in for is another legal nightmare. >> hey, ho, clinton's got to go. hey, ho, clinton's got to go. >> this was a howl coming up in the media and from republicans. people were horrified after this. it was overpowering. >> i want you to listen to me. i'm going to say this again. i did not have sexual relations with that woman, miss lewinsky. i never told anybody to lie. not a single time. never. these allegations

debate where donald trump stood too close to her, 90 minutes before the debate began he brought out paula jonesd other clinton accusers. he gave them a voice. he gave the people who had been hurt, marred and ignored by most the media outside of you, sean, he gave them a platform. for her to ignore the pain of these women, their sexual assault allegation and instead complaining about donald trump standing too close to her is breath-taking hi pock -- hypocrisy. >> mercedes, i looked at the nation gave clintons money, i never saw the outspeak -- outspoken criticism and they wouldn't speak out against the human rights records. >> they've developed a double standard where they basically have said, you know, she's a feminist, she's the one out there for women's issues. but at the same time has been involved in receiving as you mentioned $10 million to $25 million alone for the clinton foundation. watching hilary or listening to hilary in this exert -- excerpt of her book even the democrats in her own party want her out of the spotlight. rehashing this is like her own therapy dealing with this. >> you

i think bill clinton was pretty creepy, monica, paula jones -- kathleen willie, we know that case.. monica lewinsky. that was pretty creepy. all the money he took from countries that abused women, how to dress, drive, can't leave the country or even the house in saudi arabia. they kill gays and lesbians and persecute christians and jews. >> you have a memoir coming out next month. mrs. clinton did not lose this election because she thought mr. trump was a creep in that debate. she has big problems with her campaign. a communications problem. a likability problem and most of all, a corruption problem. she might still want to live in the field of denial right now. it's not going to help her party because her party also remains in denial. from mrs. clinton making this argument right now, it's pretty outrageous but she doesn't have anything else. >> sean: gregg, there's too much hypocrisy. i was watching one network today. they were treating this like gospel truth. while back. >> i looked at the tape today, an agonizing couple of hours. never once was he in her space or stocking her or

steve ban nnon a the others and trump campaign tried to intimidate her viking back by parading out paula jonesall of the women, past woman who had accused bill clinton. obviously a very difficult moment. they were sitting in the frornt rowbleachers there. she was very tense and nervous. and then he was circling her and you saw in the pictures around her and around her and was looming over her as she described it. and she decided not to challenge him on that. she did challenge him o hollywood," but she have didn't challenge on the body movements and getting in her space. and now is thinking about was that the right thing to do. >> and you and i both were in the arena in philadelphia. there had to be memorable moments in this book from that week. what are some of the things that she he says she will remember? >> the forward to the book which frames the book is going write expensively about philadelphia as you remember what it was like then. and that was one of the high moments. and when her granddaughter came running in as she was practicing her speech and she was wearing white when which is wha

that debate began, president trump brought out a kathleen willie and one and juanita broderick and paula jonessers. he gave them a voice. women that have been hurt and marred and ignored by most of the media outside of you, sean. he gave them a platform. for her to ignore the pain of these women, their sexual assault allegations and instead complain about donald trump standing too close to her? it's breathtaking hypocrisy. >> sean: i was looking, we are keeping it up on the screen. countries that gave the clinton foundation money. i looked and looked hard. i never saw the outspoken criticism at all and i'm looking at the tens and millions of dollars that went to the foundation. did her silence? her atrocious human rights records? >> the hillary clinton -- this double standard where they basically have said she's a feminist. she's the one that's out there. women's issues. at the same time has been involved in you mentioned ten to about $25 million from saudi arabia alone for the clinton foundation. i think watching or listening to hillary and this excerpt of her book, i just don't get it, sean.

bossy, and steve bannon, had brought out all of the women who had been accusers of bill clinton, paula jones and others, they had done a facebook live before. then they delayed the debate because the trump campaign was demanding that these women be seated in the front row in the family section. the presidential debate commission said not fair, that would have been right in the line of sight of hillary clinton at this town hall. they were brought out and put in the front row of the bleachers. that was the drama surrounding all of this. then she has him circling and circling around her. >> breathing, as she said, actually breathing on her neck. it was bizarre to watch, it -- in the room, it was bizarre to watch on television. and she's describing it in a really visceral way, what had actually felt like, she couldn't see him much of the time to kind of have him moving around behind her and the things that were going through her head. i'm struck by the personal tone she is taking at least in this excerpt. and the sense that she actually is willing to review things that went right and things that

ken starr hopped from whitewater to paula jones and from her to monica lewinsky. so they can end up calling it quits and giving their guy the good housekeeping seal of approval. and somehow, i don't think that's what donald trump has been spending his adult life doing his darnedest to win. bottom line, trump's right to fear bob mueller. and the last thing trump wantsis a top to bottom audit, tax returns and all. anyone who thinks that hasn't been paying much attention. that's "hardball" for now. thanks for being with us. "all in with chris hayes" starts right now. >>> tonight on "all in" -- >> this competitive application process will favor applicants who can speak english. >> a downward spiral continues, and a presidency in crisis plays the hits. >> the notion that you think this is a racist bill is so wrong and so insulting. >> tonight new record low poll numbers for the president. and today's attempt to halt the slide with an anti-immigration barrage. >> that is one of the most outrageous, insulting, ignorant and foolish things you've ever said. >>> plus, new r

he was supposed to investigate a land deal in arkansas and went on to travelgate, paula jones and sendingca lewinsky. democrats saying what's going on here? that's legitimate. what he came across. we're seeing a reverse now. >> and one of the reasons special counsel doesn't exist because of that back in the day. and sneak this in. announcing a new, what he says, tripling of the justice department investigators looking into leaks of classified information. >> i strongly agree with the president and condemn in the strongest terms the staggering number of leaks. i have for would-be leakers, a warning. don't do it. he didn't name specific cases. essentially a calling card. saying if you know about this, bring on the information. a significant as sessions reacting to pressure from the president? >> it is, because -- as we all know that sessions has been under a lot of pressure from the president, but i'll tell you. republican and democrat, didn't matter when when those transcripts leaked yesterday, it sent shock waves through the national security community as well as congress, because lard to

they had the women, paula jones and all the other accusers who had been on facebook live just before that debate. and then they were brought out into the audience. in fact, the debate was delayed because the people from the trump campaign wanted theme be seated right in front of hillary clinton in the family section. the presidential debate commission refused. so, they finally were brought out and put in the front row of the bleachers on the side so that they wouldn't be directly in her line of sight. but this had been two days after the "access hollywood" tapes were revealed. a lot of drama behind all this. and she is more revealing in this excerpt than we have heard or seen hillary clinton before in her two previous books, of course. she seems to be really reflecting on what she could have done. and reaching out metphorically, i guess, to women around the world. women in america who might have also had similar experiences with men looming in america. if you look back and look at the visuals, he was circling her. and she told people afterwards that she really thought about this a lo

in the case in which paula jones sued bill clinton for sexual harassment.clinton had to submit to a deposition. but in other cases, the court has said that if it's about an official act that happened when the president was in office, then that lawsuit has to wait until after he leaves. so the question here is whether this is an official act. it's about a murder investigation at the end of the day, so if a court decides it doesn't count as one of his official duties, then the president can be hauled into court and forced to answer questions about whether he helped create fake news. >> interesting. the other sort of piece of this is the conspiracy aspect of it, whether or not the white house was in on knowing that this story would essentially exonerate donald trump, that's what they were hoping it would do, in any collusion with russia. this is rod wheeler's attorney, douglas whigdor, talking to stephanie earlier today and doubling down on the idea that the white house knew about the story. take a listen. >> we're going to follow the paper trail. we're going

a sitting president can be forced to be deposed in a case in the bill clinton case with paula jones but think that the facts here are very different. the press is not the defendant and it's going to be a long shot but -- >> likely that robert mueller the special counsel. >> aha. that's the key is that i think there's no question that robert mueller will be looking at this, not because this in and of itself would mean that it's obstruction of justice but it becomes another piece in the puzzle, remember, robert mueller is not looking for one single sort of gotcha moment. he's looking at a total picture here to say, was this piece with this piece and that piece and this piece and if you put them all together, is that obstruction of justice? the trump team would say, look, this is about lying to the media. you're allowed to lie to the media. they wouldn't even admit they were involved in it but for argument sake that's true. you are. >> coupled with the other story that came out the president getting involved in that don junior statement. >> right, so you are allowed to it's not a crime to

debate where bannon and bacci and others from the trump campaign had done a facebook live event with paula jonesen who had been accusers of bill clinton and then they were seated in the front of the bleacher there is. this was the most incredibly tense moment, and here he was as you point out looming over her. it's hard at this point to separate that from the "snl" parity with kate mckinnon and alec baldwin and the "jaws" music as he kept circling around her. when you talk to people close to hillary clinton, she keeps revisiting that, because she's thinking about whether if she had stopped and said "back up you creep" would the events have changed and women can relate to this, i think. she knows that clearly. this is a moment every woman has had an experience with a man that is that kind of threatening moment where you suck it up and clench your fists and dig your nails into your palms, and try to sort of carry on, and she represents that, and this is a signal moment. i'm told she came back to talk to her aides afterwards and she sank into a chair and she said, "boy, this has been hard but that

former greats, including former arizona cardinals' quarterback, kirk warner, who paula mentioned yesterday. and jerry jonesd one of my favorite players, kenny easley, formerly of ucla and the seattle seahawks. a great safety. >> lt, what a great speech. >> it was. really good. you should watch a longer extra. it was really very powerful. >> i feel like i should call him reverend. he was preaching up there. it was great. >> yeah. >> great to hear from you, ronny. >> thank you. >> don't go anywhere. >> stay here? >> forever. >> okay. forever. >> forever. >> thank you, ron. let's check the weather now. once again. >> got to get lotto tickets. >>> speaking of lt, i wish he would come back out of retirement. ever since he retired, my fantasy football team has never been the same. i have not been above .500. maybe this show will be different. it is getting football season, the heart of hurricane season. and this disturbance, 30 to 50% developing in the next three to five days. and drifting towards the -- at least the northern caribbean islands and obviously in the realm of the u.s. we're watching this carefully.

greats including arizona cardinals quarterback kirk werner who paula mentioned yesterday, i guess you're a fan and dallas cowboys owner jerry jonesnd one of my favorite players kenny easley of ucla. and the seattle seahawks. great safety. >> what a great speech. >> really good. you should watch it. very powerful. >> feel like i should call him reverend. he was preaching up there. great. great to hear from you. >> thank you. >> don't go anywhere. >> stay here? >> forever. >> forever? >> forever. >> thank you. let's check the weather now. robert, what's cooking? >> speaking of lt, i wish he would come back. out of retirement. ever since he retired my fantasy football team has never been the same. it is getting to football and into the heart of hurricane season this disturbance has our eyes in the central atlantic. 30% of developing in the next 3 to 5 days. drifting toward the caribbean. and disturbance in central caribbean this will head to central america or the criewk tan or the -- yucatan or the gulf of mexico, as well. today a beautiful day across the northeast. the storms hit central west coast. warm across the pacific northwe