. >> this is paula jones.>s the spectator article alled that jones had gone to the then ar a governor's hotel room in 1991 for a sexual encounter. >> he leaned up against the chair, he started to put his hands and slide up my legs. >>to her story was different frm the published account. >> she told the story. he was summoned to the hotel room by the novembe governor's y guard and he proceeded to make sexual advances to her. >> it was wrong that a come came into the workplace and be harassed by a figure that high and it is hug humiliating, whate did to me. >> it drew a lot of skepticism because paula jones would not explicitly say what it was that went on. >> the event did not get the media attention its organizers had hoped for. >> although people at the cpac conference, the whole setting seemed a bit unto ward. clearly being put on on the president's political enemies. she was paraded out there in ways that were a bit unseemly. >> but deciding the story was worth investigating a bit more. >> she was saying so

i mean, with the monica lewinsky thing, she was a subpoenaed witness in the paula jones lawsuit.ember, the supreme court voted 9-0 and said the lawsuit should go forward. it was a legitimate legal process. and that's what turns it, you know, turned it into -- >> michael cohen denies there is any inappropriate relationship with stormy daniels, and cohen also released a statement in which she denies having sex with the president. so why do you think this story hasn't blown up? >> first of all, they did not deny the $130,000 payment. that's what leapt out at me. if nothing had happened, why did money change hands? and if money didn't change hands, why didn't they deny that money had changed hands? so that's the first sort of red flag that leaps out. of course, as stormy daniels had talked to others and confirmed that she had had a sexual relationship with donald trump and then after the $130,000 payment, she said she did not have a sexual relationship with donald trump. so there are legitimate reasons to be somewhat skeptical about some of these public statements. >> i think you wer

. >> bill: in a moment remember paula jones? she went from a brief mention in a magazine to global headlines after suing president clinton for sexual harassment. her lawyer at the time recalling it all in a new series. that lawyer joins us in a moment straight ahead. >> sandra: president trump offering a plan to protect nearly 2 million dreamer and blames president obama for the immigration stand off. is he right? will democrats come to the table? >> president trump: these are people that should be able to stay in this country. we will solve the daca problem. i have type 2 diabetes. i'm trying to manage my a1c, and then i learn type 2 diabetes puts me at greater risk for heart attack or stroke. can one medicine help treat both blood sugar and cardiovascular risk? i asked my doctor. he told me about non-insulin victoza®. victoza® is not only proven to lower a1c and blood sugar, but for people with type 2 diabetes treating their cardiovascular disease, victoza® is also approved to lower the risk of major cv events such as heart at

. ♪ on the next episode of "scandalous"... >> and this is paula jones. >> he started to put his >> if foster may not have committed suicide in fort marcy park the body may have been moved. >> it became yet another grist for the mill of people who wanted to accuse of the clintons of horrible things, including murder. >> he said, "you won't believe this, but you have been replaced by ken starr." >> so, that's how it began, with a phone call in the early summer of 1994. >> the stack of papers suddenly reappeared in the white house book room. >> i would like to know how those documents showed up. >> oh, please. really? steve: breaking tonight. the decadent d.c. blame game goes on. i'm steve hilton and this is the home of positive populism. negotiations have heated up on capitol hill to make sure doors are open in the government tomorrow morning. also tonight, clinton cash author peter schweizer joins me after i take on the clinton foundation. and coulter is here to break

. ♪ on the next episode of "scandalous"... >> and this is paula jones. >> he started to put his >> if foster may not have committed suicide in fort marcy park the body may have been moved. >> it became yet another grist for the mill of people who wanted to accuse of the clintons of horrible things, including murder. >> he said, "you won't believe this, but you have been replaced by ken starr." >> so, that's how it began, with a phone call in the early summer of 1994. >> the stack of papers suddenly reappeared in the white house book room. >> i would like to know how those documents showed up. >> oh, please. really? ♪ >> previously on "scandalous"... >> jim and susan mcdougal were straight out of central casting. >> jim got the clintons to invest with him in the whitewater estates. >> whitewater failed. >> jim mcdougal bought madison guaranty savings and loan. >> savings and loans began to drop like flies. >> here was this young upstart governor from arkansas. >>> here was this young upstart governor from h arkansas, came t of nowhere. >> i still believe in a place called home. >

in response, of course, we argued that issue has been decided in the case of paula jones versus president clinton, were in the united states of print court said that no man is above the law, including the president of the united states

and make sure we all deserve to be heard unless you are paula jones or juanita broaddrick or katherine willy. >> this young woman bravely comes forward and says here is what's happening to me. this powerful man is acting inappropriately and hillary clinton personally intervenes to say we are protecting that powerful man and we are moving you out of your job. kennedy: not a surprise for people like hillary clinton who pay a lot of lip service to the movement. but it's very disingenuous. >> it's the same play book they used for monica lewinsky. but i'm amazed at her ability to pick spiritual advisors. her last one accused of plagiarizing a book it's the classic display of liberal i'm do as i say, not what i do. kennedy: chris? >> this is like playbook hillary clinton. her whole life is churning up anybody who gets in her way and pretending to be magnanimous about it. kennedy: we all deserve to be heard. >> she is perfect. the grammys trotted her out. it's so perfect for people to pretend they are care about women's issues. >> when she says i called this woman to talk about these things.

on this very day in 1998 president bill clinton gave a deposition on sexual harassment claims by paula jonesit wasn't the biggest scandal of the year. this is the "topical storm." we begin in longview, texas where a rare snowfall inspired one dad to take his daughter out for a spin. there he goes. police warned motorists to stay off the road until it was necessary. but when you are the fun dad doing donuts, it's also absolutely necessary. this may look like a stunt but it's valuable daddy-daughter bonding time. take it from a girl who didn't get to do dough tbhuts her daddy. topic number two. school kids in mississippi. they got a snow day of their own and these kids deserved it because they have been getting a really bad rap. you students, it's a snow day. you teachers, it's a snow day. drink you some hot chocolate because this is a snow day. kennedy: the assistant principle's rapping snow advisory had the parents laughing and the pta check the donuts and brownies at the bake sale to make sure they weren't stuffed with reefers. and some of them wanted to find out who this 50 cent guy is. on

. >> lawyers for paula jones in the federal district court. >> was a mob scene the press to know aboutthe time. we walked past them and i had a stack of complaints with me. and i pass them along to the clerk. and all breaks loose. lea: will tune in tonight for a two-hour block a scandalous in the first episode of the series at 7:00 p.m. eastern five at 8:00 p.m. eastern by the premier of the part too called a woman named paula. leland: up next, a glamorous night for the grammys. the awards show as a change in location for the stars will hit the red carpet tonight. i'm back. aleve pm for a better am. . . sion parts. or it isn't. it's inspected by mercedes-benz factory-trained technicians. or it isn't. it's backed by an unlimited mileage warranty, or it isn't. for those who never settle, it's either mercedes-benz certified pre-owned, or it isn't. the mercedes-benz certified pre-owned sales event. now through february 28th. only at your authorized mercedes-benz dealer. guys,but you've got sto be strong.st remember janet? she got cash back shopping with ebates and hasn't been skeptical sin

clinton was investigated in the paula jones sexual harassment case. here he is in a later deposition testifying about his relationship with monica lewinsky. look here. >> when i was alone with miss lewinsky on certain occasions in early 1996 and once in early 1997, i engaged in conduct that was wrong. >> yeah, president jimmy carter testified under oath numerous time for a criminal conduct investigation involving his brother, billy and financial improprieties at the carter's family peanut warehouse, shep. >> shepard: and republican presidents as well, right? >> yeah. long history. all the way back to abraham lincoln that voluntarily testified before the house judiciary committee during an investigation of a white house leak to a newspaper reporter. in modern times president reagan responded to written questions concern ago special counsel investigation in the iran contra inquiry. after leaving office, mr. reagan gave videotaped testify in the iran contra trial of his national security adviser, john poindexter. watch. >> i only recall learning that the

." >> this is paula jones. >> to slide up my leg.e body may have been moved. >> it became yet another glitch for who wanted to accuse the clintons. >> so that's how it began. >> a phone call many the early summer. >> a stack of papers suddenly reappeared in the white house book room. >> i would like to know how those documents showed up. ♪ ♪ >>> breaking tonight, the decadent d.c. blame gam goes on and lawmakers still can't strike a deal. evening, welcome to "the next revolution." this is steve hilton. negotiations have heated up on capitol hill tonight. any minute we're expecting to hear from mitch mcconnell. in a moment we'll go live to gop congressman ron desantis in washington >>> also tonight, our panel and peter schweitzer joins me in tonight's swamp watch. and and coulter is here

went to the supreme court over this in 1997 because he didn't want to testify in the civil case of paula jones the president's attorneys are. >> the big distinction is there was a legal case, a separate civil case. >> but what the president's lawyers point to is ronald reagan and iran contra. they say the president was allowed to do written answers to these questions. that is why they are trying to figure out what mueller has. what mueller has on their guy. this is what this is all about. >> i think what john said earlier is important. i think there is a reason why there is this parallel campaign going on to impreach the impeac investigation, impeach the fbi. and lessen the political blow of not doing that. >> there is a parallel investigation because there is evidence of problems in the fbi. evidence of problems in the justice department. there is a legitimate reason that republicans are pursuing it. is it undermining their case? there are people who undermine this case. >> two people who exchanged text messages. >> you are impeaching this 30,000 body of people. >> one name, ted stevens. one

there's paula jones versus clinton. they give the president some whig el room to negotiate scope, time, place, but not much, once they figure out what it is that those cases give the president some wiggle room with respect to. then the interview takes place, they can't avoid the interview, there's no question that mueller has the authority to do it, it's just, you know, on the -- perimeter of it, if he refuses then we're in court to enforce it, that's why -- >> that's what nixon did, he refused to comply with the grand jury subpoena for the tapes. and they went to court and he lost. and that's what will happen here. >> that's an interesting point. >> that's what trump is suggesting now. i mean, that's how i interpreted what he said, he will refuse a subpoena, that he is at that moment now, and he obviously is not going to do it voluntarily any more, he's just -- you know, today was significant in terms of what he believes will be his legal strategy going-forward. >> the difference here. >> here's what he's saying. he's

. >> whitewater -- paula jones. >> with ken starr. >> with ken starr. at the end of the day it's going to be a big question about how much if the president and more importantly his attorneys and advisers want him to push back and how hard he is willing to push back. i talked to people who are arguing that the last thing in the world that president trump should do is go and be sort of, from their perspective, the trump world's perspective, a sitting duck to question after question after question. just number one, given the fact that it's precedent, but, number two, given the fact that it's not unheard of that president trump does -- doesn't stick to script. >> i remember, by the way, when ken starr, the independent counsel at the time, wanted to question bill clinton. they did it for four hours. >> yeah. >> he was at the white house. they let him do it at the white house out of respect for the president, but there was a video link to the grand jury that listened to the q&a. >> to add to dana's point, unless he is sort of compelled to do so, i would be sk

the trigger for what would become monica lewinsky even though it was unrelated to the claim by paula joneswyer, kin of donald trump, you do not want him sitting across the table be to fbi investigators. and you want to avoid it as much as possible. we have seen donald trump is very experienced. he may be as experienced as anyone in the country, and i honestly mean that in depositions and answering in sort of narrow ways. we've seen the deposition footage in which he suddenly leaks all kind of memory holes. i would not underestimate his ability even under the direct scrutiny and those conditionses to acquit himself in a way that manages to give him a sort of enough hedge to not commit any infractions. >> when you say that mueller meeting trump under oath or in an oath-like setting is inevitable, you're positing this as the plot of "heat," and pacino and de niro are circling each other and have to meet up at the end. >> the two men have to face off. look, the thing that i always keep coming back to at the core of this is, only donald trump knows what he did. only donald trump knows what he d

what did she do to monica lewinsky, paula jones, kathleen willie? mrs.linton was right at the center of trying to smear and discredit these women. a narcissistic looney tunes. that's what mrs. clinton did for specific women. >> we can talk about maxine, who has done tons of work with hillary clinton on ship. we can talk about the mothers of the movement on gun violence prevention. we can go back and forth with names. >> laura: she can do a lot of good liberal things that you like and at the same time not be the best person to come out for the #metoo movement. if i were a liberal, i would be like okay, hillary, thanks for your service, but we are moving on. turn the page from the clintons. if not helping democrats. it seems like most democrats i want to know want to be done with the clintons. >> i do think that the #metoo movement is bigger than any one person. i do agree with you on that and i think it's a powerful moment for everybody in the country. >> laura: thank you so much, and we will be right back. stay do you need the most trusted battery in you

the litany of women who have made allegations against her husband whether they're talking about paula jonesgennifer flowers, and she has degraded these women who made these claims. i think she's proven in this case that she is an enabler to sexual harrassment as opposed to someone who really takes a stand. >> at the same time, jim, is it an issue of it should not be made of a partisan issue that it a different time, different place, completely different circumstances? >> let's separate a couple things here. this is an equal opportunity problem in this country. this is not a democratic problem or republican problem. it's throughout this cancer of sexual harrassment in politics, it's throughout both parties. that's number one. number two, hillary clinton didn't handle this right. three wrongs don't make a right. she didn't handle it correctly in 2008, 2016, and her statement last week on this where she kind of, you know, sort of rah-rahed in self-con grgratulatory, i thought it was tone deaf here. we need to move into the 21st century on this. i do not think hillary clinton is an enabler. she

remember the paula jones case against bill clinton was financed by a conservative group. ken vogel talked about michael serna veg out there. offering money for evidence against particular members of congress, them will make mainly focused on democrats. if you are in is for justice, be in it for justice, don't be in it for political gain. >> i would just add that we've been having this conversation for months now about the solution to these problems. how does the private sector handle sexual harassment and assault versus the public sector on capitol hill. at the bottom line is you actually can't get to any kind of accountability or change when it comes to this issue if it so politicized and my fear is that we are already there and because of all the money that is involved and the power involved we can't take the politics out of it. >> then there's the fear for the victims, the women who want to come forward, need to come forward and you wonder are they going to somehow now have to prove that they are not one of the ones being paid? >> i think if you are coming up a few wee

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we are talking about paula jones, she silenced them after they accused.with regard to jennifer flowers, she called her trailer trash. monica lewinsky, she called her a narcissistic looney tune. here is a woman that says she wants these women to speak out, these women that accused her husband, she shamed them. >> i have to go. we will tell you why the president was booed while speaking in davos. so, how's it going? well... we had a vacation early in our marriage that kinda put us in a hole. go someplace exotic? yeah, bermuda. a hospital in bermuda. a hospital in bermuda. what? what happened? i got a little over-confident on a moped. even with insurance, we had to dip into our 401(k) so it set us back a little bit. sometimes you don't have a choice. but it doesn't mean you can't get back on track. great. yeah, great. i'd like to go back to bermuda. i hear it's nice. yeah, i'd like to see it. no judgment. just guidance. td ameritrade. peopbut they're different.nd. nice tells you what you want to hear. but kind is honest. this bar's made with delicious cranbe

he lied in the paula jones deposition. this was vividly recalled by all of us 20 years ago exactly last week. there's no way that donald trump and his team have not looked at that playbook and understood very clearly what the jeopardy is. >> i would submit to you, though, that bill clinton and donald trump are completely different in terms of going into a deposition. who would you rather take in as a client, bill clinton or a pathological liar? >> we had every parallel in this case to the clinton case except we haven't had trump get up there and say i didn't have treasonous relationships with that country. >> actually, he did say that. the russians, i have no this in russia, no that in russia, oh, by the way, can you find the e-mails? >> the other parallel we could have, it is true this is a more serious underlying accusation, but if you end up with perjury but you don't actually have a charge of obstruction, you don't have a charge of this kind of corruption and this kind of collusion, it's going to play the same way. >>

in response, of course, we argued that issue has been decided in the case of paula jones versus president clinton, were in the united states of print court said that no man is above the law, including the president of the united states, for unofficial acts. any code that is women's rights attorney gloria allred who represents one of the women who have accused president trump of sexual assault. she spoke at the women's rally in park city, utah, this week. i'll read was at sundance because she herself is now the subject oa new documentary ."lled "seeing allred we will speak with gloria allred as well as jane fonda. >> we have an opportunity to really make a difference because people are recognizing what is at stake. it is never been this clear. oftentimes you have to go to another country to see what could happen. -- our is actually democracy is being threatened, and i think people are awoke. amy: the documentary "jane fonda atfive acts" also premiered sundance. having just turned 80, was it down wh jane fonda to talk in-depth about her life's work, particularly going to hanoi to oppose the

juanita broaddrick, paula jones, kathleen wylie, she cleansed them.nifer flowers, she called her trailer trash. wig regard to monica lewinsky, she called her a narcissistic loony tune. she's women that accused her husband of this -- >> that's got to be the last word. i've got to go. thank you both. >>> when we come back, we're going to tell you why the president was booed while speaking in davos. when your stomach is all, "oh yeah!" but your brain says, "yeeeah...no." ...introducing new roasted turkey and stuffing delights from marie callender's. all for only 260 calories. because eating well calls for marie callender's® delights™. we're ready for you. ♪ ♪ new elvive revives damaged hair in just 1 use. go beyond regular shampoo or conditioner. because you're worth it. get your bathroom super bowl ready with febreze. breathe happy. i'm actually closer to my retirement daysing. than i am my college days. i just want to know, am i gonna be okay? i know people who specialize in "am i going to be okay." i like that. you may need glasses though. schedule a

>> she could have said, no, why are we calling paula jones names?'t do that, not on my watch. >> we don't know what she said. >> she was an aggressive defender. did she come out at any point and say, please don't attack these women? >> no, she didn't but we don't know she was part of attacking this women. the only thing anyone ever comes up with that she said about monica lewinsky, she did have some choice words for monica lewinsky, but if you sleep with my husband, you will have some choice words from me. she told her best friend. >> either she leaves the husband or she decides to support the husband. >> she can stay married to him, but she doesn't have to enable his political career. not every husband has to run for president. that was the compromising choice she made. she was like, i'm all in on this, and you have done these things that were wrong -- >> if every man that -- >> that were embarrassing to both of us, and as a political operation, we have to defeat them. >> if every man that cheated -- this is such an old story. but if every man that

i would think, i've seen like jerry ford had to testify, bill clinton had to testify about the paula jonester, which led into the monica thing. how do you -- how does a president simply say, "no, thank you, i refuse to be questioned or interrogated by a justice department official"? can he do that? >> no, i don't think he can. i think that he can try to negotiate terms that are favorable to him. but at the end of the day, robert mueller really holds all of the cards, because he can use a subpoena to compel him to testify if it comes to that. i think as a political matter, president trump doesn't want it to come to that. so i think that they'll reach some sort of agreement with some terms of engagement of how this interview will go forward. >> when you say negotiate, as if they've got a negotiating position. how can they deny -- if the guy says, i'm going to subpoena you, buddy, i don't care if you're president of the united states, what could he do about it? and by the way, i would not give this president a take-home quiz, let him take it back to smarter people than him and let them answer

>> they were present in the paula jones civil action but not in the map room with ken starr's 5 1/2-hourg of president clinton troops. >> so what is the timing of this of whatever the interview would be tell you about the length or status of the investigation? i would assume that mueller would want to talk to the president toward the end of an investigation after he was already interviewed and has all the information rather than earlier in the investigation or mid investigation and then have there be something else later on he would take to talk to the president about? >> that's right. however, they could also break it up into work streams. so they may come to a conclusion or the point where they're ready to interview the president with respect to the conspiracy to interfere with the election or the obstruction of justice. and they may say to the president we want to do a discreet interview with you on that topic and we reserve to right to come back and talk to you about other topics. or they could do it in sort of one fell swoop at the end for all topics. if he were interviewed tomorrow

be investigating perjury on the part of the president in the sexual harassment case brought by paula jonesyou don't know what will come in the door. i agree with alan there are concerns about it but the country has always had some mechanism for investigating the president and those close to them to get it outside the justice department. >> do you know ty cobb? >> i've met him and great respect for him but not dealt with him professionally. >> bill: here he is talking about this very topic. just catch the last phrase that he uses in this clip here. >> i would hope that a fair-minded office of special counsel would approach it in a dutiful way consistent with precedent and it wouldn't be a mere perjury trap. >> bill: a mere perjury trap. that can be a vehicle. what's your view on that? >> i think there is a real concern about that. first of all, there is -- from a defense lawyer's perspective it is a perjury trap. from the rule of law perspective just tell the truth. if you're under oath just tell the truth. we have the indictments of general flynn. i read through the indictment. the indictm

i guess, -- paula jones. way, there'shat nothing surprising about this strategy.tta, cleveland, ohio. line for democrats, good morning. caller: good morning. good morning, everyone. i'm really just praying. i'm going to pray for america. i'm going to pray for our president. and i'm going to pray for republican voters. the rich real of hate -- the vitriol of hate, just listening to the phone calls, we are talking about trump and they are bringing up clinton? my first question is regarding nunes. if he recused himself, just what the hell is he doing? he has nothing at all to do with the investigation. that is number one. trump has been dogging this investigation. covered with mud, trying to make anything stick on the wall. i'm wondering, how is this not obstruction? how is that not obstruction? host: we will take those two questions. little time, a lot of calls. , if you looknunes at the way that he parsed his language, as of april a year ago, he was temporarily stepping aside until he was cleared of the ethics charges against him. there is some question as to wheth

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actress catherine zeta-jones posting that her flight was canceled on the way to tonight opposite golden globes. the port authority saying most rrier.e, check with your get on dan? paula? >> i hope "the hunger games" vibe subsides. erielle, thank you. >> thank you. >>> now to politics. a flurry of headlines emanating out of camp david. where to the -- where president trump spoke to reporters. >> among the major story lines, the president felt compelled to defend his mental stability. we have team coverage. we're going to begin at the white house and abc's david wright. david, good morning to you. >> reporter: good morning, and dan. "fire and fury." that continues to be the president's reaction to the book. not just the title. the president launched into a tweet storm. he even lambasted the author and his book at an impromptu news conference. >> thank you very much. it's great to have you at camp david. a very special lace. >> reporter: on one of the coldest days of the year, president trump was boiling mad about the new book by journalist michael wolff and its disparaging look at trump's first year in office. >> i consider it a work of fiction. i think it's a disgrace