and that friedan and paula murray later helped get them out of with the -- once they became activist in the national organization for women. but they were also much more likely than white women to see work and community activism as a central part of their identity. you know, it was not white feminist, but black leaders of the 20s and 30s who first raised the demand that a woman should have a three-part identity. as a wife, mother, as a co-provider for her family, and community leader and activist. when you ask white women, what are you going to college for? the white women would say better wives and mothers. the black women would say to be better members. not just to get a job, but to be better members of the community. i came to see the real tragedy of friedan's orientation to the -- on the exclusive group was that she could have pointed to the example to this demoralized group that didn't think it was possible to say yes. there are women who can be wives and mothers and can mind that identity as workers in community activist. and in support of that. let me mention the findings of s

demeaning, low-paid domestic work that they were stuck in in this period and that friedan and paula murray later helped get them out of -- once they became activists in the national organization for women. but they were also much more likely than white women to see work and community activism as their central part of their identity. it was not quite feminists but black leaders of the '20s and '30s who first raised the demand that a woman should have a three-part identity as a wife and mother, as a coprovider for her family and as a community leader and activist. and when you ask black women and white women in college, what are you going to college for. the white women would say to be better wives and mothers. the black women would almost always say to be better members -- not just to get a job but to be better members of the community. so i came -- you know, i came to see the real tragedy of friedan's orientation to this -- on this exclusive group was that she could have pointed to the examples, to this demoralized that didn't think it was possible to say yes, there are women who can be wi