here to help us sort through this latest health care conundrum is paula wilson, specializing in employeend small business benefits. great to see you, paula. >> good morning. >> what's interesting about this is this is -- we're talking about for businesses that have less than 50 employees. there still will be a place to go and get insurance for your employees. but the idea of having to choose one plan versus letting your employees choose your plan really changes things, doesn't it? >> well, i'm a california agent. and in california we've had multiple choice for years. most of my small businesses have their employees choose between up to 20 plans. and we do have private exchanges in california that offer multiple plans and many levels of benefits. so it's not really anything new here. and the california shop exchange will open on january 2014. >> well, there are a number of states that have actually taken this on themselves. and for them, employees will be able to go in and choose their own plans. since you work with so many people where employees choose their own plans, do you think in th

. >> bill: i'll take ina garden over paula deen. reid wilsonm the "national journal" who often joins us on the phone will be here in studio with us. cindy boren our favorite sports columnist will be here with us the next hour. and then julie mason from sirius x.m. p.o.t.u.s. channel will be here as a "friend of bill." and edward snowden is on the run. but first -- >> this is the "full court press." >> here are some other stories making news, last night bill, wire walker nick wallenda made history as he became the first man to tightrope across the grand canyon. in a special that aired live on the discovery channel wallenda took just under 23 minutes to walk 1400 feet across a wire that was suspended 1500 feet above the floor of the canyon. wallenda spent the entire time -- they had a microphone on him and cameras. he spent the whole time talking to jesus and begging and praying. >> bill: he did the right thing because he got to the other side. >> jesus got him across. after the stunt he announced his next big stunt is he wants to talk between tw