the question at this point should not be why i called secretary paulsen but why i had to. the question at this point should be why a trade association representing over 100 minority banks could not get a meeting at the height of the crisis. when i contacted the treasury secretary not i did not suggest any solution to the problem of the national bankers' association. i did not ask for any favors from the national bankers' association. i did not ask for a meeting for any individual bank including one united bank. i did not suggest who would be participants in that meeting. i did not attend that meeting. and there was no such thing as the troubled assets relief program, known as tarp, at that time. there has been a great deal of confusion over a conversation i had with the financial services chairman, barney. the conversation i had with chairman frank was a conversation several weeks after this meeting had taken place, and after tarp program had been announced. one united bank was now raising questions about assistance from tarp because my office's assistants to the national

(paulsen) thank you for joining us. the remarkable bill t. jones.] (jones) do we shake, or-- good. thanks again to bill t. jones, max anderson, and the whitney museum of american art for making this episode of whitney dialogues at the first amendment center possible. please join us again next week for speaking freely. captioning provided by the first amendment center, funded by the freedom forum. captioning by ben at captionmax www.captionmax.com after school at 3. . 30 i hop on the bus and go to work with kids. i didn't realize i was going to get up that early for the rest of my life. >> it's hard to get good jobs. you can get well paid working at restaurants i was making good money that's not my 50 year goal working as a waitress. it would be better to have something to fall back on i wanted something where i would in 10 years accumulate properties. >> 3 months is a long time to be busy all day. i'm putting myself further in debt with the understanding it's worth the sacrifice. eating raman for 3 months. it's not fun but i think it will be worth i