what to do with it today i invited pavlo dzikovsky, a psychotherapist in the direction of psychoanalysis, a clinical psychologist, to my studio. and we will talk about a topic that, in principle, it seems to me, has become quite painful, and in general, already in ukraine and abroad dodge and guilt. i would like to start with the question of what, what, who can be called dodgers and... is it really hurting ukrainians so much now? well, our whole society, we are all in the reality of war. and the reality of war is completely different from the reality of peace. our, for the most part, our peaceful life ended in 22. well, for many it ended even earlier, but it ended actually in the year 14, and we are... a society that is at war, and for us the question of war is a question of our survival, it the question that generally forms for us the basis of our experiences, the basis of our thoughts, and accordingly, based on the reality of the war, it is the case that the male, mostly male... of our society, it has, so to speak, divided into two categories , this is so, this is a fact: on those who