now talk about a very sensitive topic , especially for europeans, in connection with our studio pavlo rozenko, he was a minister of the social policy of ukraine from the 14th to the 16th year and vice-prime minister of ukraine from the 16th to the 19th, mr. pavla e-e. good day. glory to ukraine . i congratulate you. glory to the heroes. look, yesterday we analyzed the deep love of the residents of the temporarily occupied territories to the party of united russia, well, in the russian world they were born out of love for this party, but they were not so interested in these pseudo-elections that no one in the world wants to recognize in civilized countries as the fact that 90% of the lists in, for example , zaporizhzhia or the occupied parts of kherson regions consisted of collaborators who made up these lists, and in this case, what to do with these collaborators, because there are several approaches, on the one hand, there is the idea of ​​​​depriving the collaborators, in particular, of the right to receive pensions and in the future after de-occupation. and there is a second vector of move

oksana zholnovich, this is what we will talk about this statement talk with pavlo rozenko, vice president of the red cross society of ukraine and minister of social policy of ukraine in 2014-2016, mr. pavly, we congratulate you, i congratulate you. good afternoon, mr. pavla, what does oksana zholnovych mean when she says that we need to take us out of our comfort zone, from that zone you don't know comfort, some sedatives end up in the first aid kit at home well, i understand that we will once again see that the government lives a life of its own separate from what the ukrainian society lives what the ukrainian people live because i understand that the majority of ukrainians. i think that 99% after, especially after february 24, 2022, that is, for over a year and a half, are definitely outside the comfort zone, and taking ukrainians out of comfort here is also not uh, no, no, no, no, it’s not worth it, and it’s kind of, you know, mild in other words, the comparison of the minister of social policy is very unfortunate, which i say once again that i am simply emphasizing that the minister o