well, my guest is poland's deputy foreign minister, paweljablonski.rd to defy brussels‘ will? paweljablonski in warsaw, welcome to hardtalk. welcome, stephen, thank you for having me today. it's a pleasure to have you. now, 25 of 27 eu member states want to see the eu budget and a recovery package post—covid passed. you and the hungarians are blocking passage of this massive financial package. that's a dangerous place to be, isn't it? we also want it passed and we want it passed as quickly and swiftly as possible, but we also need guarantees. we need to have our rights that are enshrined in the european treaties protected properly. and unfortunately, it comes with caveats that we cannot accept. these caveats being certain regulations that are declared to be aimed at conditionality based on the protection of the rule of law. but in fact, these provisions are so vague and so wide that they would allow for purely politically motivated action, politically motivated financial sanctions against poland, against hungary, against any other member state, in fac

my guess is the poland deputy foreign minister, paweljablonski.afford to defy the will of brussels? paweljablonski in warsaw, welcome. welcome, thank you for having me. it's a pleasure to have me —— have you. 25 of 27 eu member states want to see the eu budget and a recovery package, post covid pass. you and the hungarians are blocking passage of this massive financial package. that is a dangerous place to be, isn't it? we also wanted be passed and we want it be passed as quickly and swiftly as possible but we also need guarantees and we need to have our rights that are enshrined in the european treaty protected properly and u nfortu nately treaty protected properly and unfortunately it comes with caveats that we cannot accept. these caveats being certain regulations that are declared to be aimed at the conditionality based on the rule of law, but in fact these provisions are so vague and so wide that they would allow for purely politically motivated action, politically motivated financial sanctions against poland and hungary and against any other