tim pawlenty issued this bold statement. "once again president obama did not have the courage to offer real solutions to fix runaway debt." of course, pawlenty's statement ignores what the president said tonight. no, pawlenty's statement actually lies about what the president said. >> let's live within our means by making serous historic cuts in government spending. let's cut domestic spending to the lowest level since dwight eisenhower was president. let's cut defense spending by hundreds of millions of dollars and cut waste in fraud and medicare and make modest adjustments so medicare is still there for future generations. finally, let's ask the wealthiest americans, and biggest corporations to give up some of their breaks in the tax code and special deductions. >> even though the early polling does not offer great encouragement to the pawlenty campaign, tim pawlenty is learning to do the most important thing that leading republican presidential candidates do every day. lie about president obama. i >>> here's what we got f

tim pawlenty issued this bold statement.e again president obama did not have the courage to offer real solutions to fix runaway debt." of course, pawlenty's statement ignores what the president said tonight. no, pawlenty's statement actually lies about what the president said. >> let's live within our means by making serous historic cuts in government spending. let's cut domestic spending to the lowest level since dwight eisenhower was president. let's cut defense spending by hundreds of millions of dollars and cut waste in fraud and medicare and make modest adjustments so medicare is still there for future generations. finally, let's ask the wealthiest americans, and biggest corporations to give up some of their breaks in the tax code and special deductions. >> even though the early polling does not offer great encouragement to the pawlenty campaign, tim pawlenty is learning to do the most important thing that leading republican presidential candidates do every day. lie about president obama. >> announcer: there's a new bre

tim pawlenty issued this bold statement.resident obama did not have the courage to offer real solutions to fix runaway debt." . of course, pawlenty's statement ignores what the president said tonight. no, pawlenty's statement actually lies about what the president said. >> let's live within our means by making serous historic cuts in government spending. let's cut domestic spending to the lowest level since dwight eisenhower was in office. let's cut defense spending by hundreds of millions of dollars and cut waste in fraud and medicare and make modest adjustments so medicare is still there for future generations. finally, let's ask the wealthiest americans, and biggest corporations to give up some of their breaks in the tax code and special deductions. >> even though the early polling does not offer great couragement in to the pawlenty campaign, tim pawlenty is lesh learning to do the most important thing that leading presidential candidates do every day -- lie about president obama. ay, all around the world, energy is being

let's see where governor tim pawlenty is at. he's got there 4.4 million raised. >> former governor tim pawlenty kicked off three weeks of iowa bodily harm storming in advance of the straw poll next month with an r.v. storm and a warning that iowans should not raise their support on charismatic candidates who can't actually win. >> jon: oh, tim pawlenty taking a bold stand against kris matt. [laughter] it's got no place in politics. hey, look, this is not a popularity contest. oh, it is? oh. well, i wonder how "the daily show" will depict pawlenty's demise. [laughter] if a pawlenty campaign falls in the woods, does it make a sound? who's next. >> herman cain raised $2.5 million. >> jon: $2.5 million for herman cain. that's a lot of pepperoni for the godfather of pizza. why is cain connecting? >> i think i'm connecting because of my passion about my support and belief in the constitution. >> jon: yes. herman cain has passion. support and belief in the constitution.ñr but does herman cain have an understanding of the constitution?

help pawlenty, hurt pawlenty. going to get defined, and he went up early. >> maybe a good move politically ripped from the headline as approach, trying to jump right into the news cycle, but i think it's a little dangerous. you don't know how this is going to wind up playing out. now he's inserted himself into a situation that has this uncertainty around it. we'll see how it plays out, but a little bit of a dangerous move. >> anita, would you be on a campaign this early be trying to follow the headlines? this is more of a general election strategy, frankly. >> well, chuck, you know, what you have to look at from tim pawlenty's point of view is he is the issue up there right now in the state of minnesota. it's what the fight is about. it's his shortfall and his bad policies that led to the problems. and both democrats and republicans up there have been talking about that. so in many ways, he doesn't have a lot of choice in terms of trying to define this. >> he had to do this early. >> he's got to define this, absol

romney, pawlenty. who's the alternative to pawlenty? to romney? that's what huntsman and pawlenty and the other candidates in the race are fighting for. that number two position. right now, nobody's got it. which is a wide open lane for michelle bachmann who is a fast fundraiser and a very good fundraiser. >> jeanne, the republicans are trying to put a positive spin on this saying a lot of the reason the fundraising has been slow is nominating contest itself has been slow. kind of got off to a late start. well, the obvious implication then is are things going to turn around in the third quarter? are we going to see the momentum shift? what do you think? >> that's where i think in hindsight they will realize they have misclailed. they did start late. none of them announced until april and may. and what they expected to do and -- in that period was to come out with some really good healthy numbers which most of them have not accomplished. so now they go into the third quarter. this is known as a really tough quarter because it's summer. and people a

if you're tim pawlenty, why drop out?se just stay in -- if you can pay the bills -- >> just hang on. >> the john kerry scenario in '04 and the john mccain scenario in '08 proves if you hang in there things can happen. >> i've got to go to a shameless plug. pete, i'll let you go first. >> indiana republican party out with a new website, demdictionary.com. exposes some of these rhetorical phrases democrats like to use to confuse voters. >> chris cillizza. >> i am in search of the best state-based political blogs in every state -- >> i want them twitter -- twitter handles. >> washingtonpost.com/thefix, post all of them and i will put twitter handles. >> my colleague alex burns, haberman new blog on politico.com. >> it is a good one. but i can tell you the one guy i'm reading all weeks, david rogers, baby. that's it for this edition of "the daily rundown." have a great weekend. it's a working weekend for a lot of peopling watching. we'll see you right here on monday to see what happens. coming up next on msnbc, "jansing & co.

today, you'll have some some of the pawlenty barbs back and forth.ctually gotten more truthful around here, why is that? >> in the debt debate there's been more responsible dialogue. >> you've got to be kidding me, irresponsible abilities to get things done, but the dialogue's been responsible? >> the truth index is flirting with positive territory. >> how about that, bill adair, editor-in-chi editor-in-chief. >>> it is only wednesday, the hump day panel is going to talk about developing news, we just talked about the cbo scoring of the harry reid plan. and is mitt romney counting his chickening before the hatch. and they heated it up and called it roasted red pepper and tomato. just booked a summer vay. ooo. sounds pricey? nah, with the hotels.com summer sale, you can find awesome deals for places nearby. interesting... wow, i'm blown away. you look great. hotels.com summer sale, save up to 30%. and get a free kindle. hotels.com. be smart. book smart. riding the dog like it's a small horse is frowned upon in this establishment! luckily though, ya kn

we are here with former minnesota governor tim pawlenty.ce here in iowa for more than a year. what has been the harm of that? >> well, from my standpoint, i don't think all domestic relationships are the same as traditional marriage, candy. i think a marriage between a man and a woman is something that should remain elevated socially, culturally, practically, legally, morally in our society. >> i understand your position on it. many people have that position. i'm wondering if you see that there has been harm to iowa, the state of iowa or will there be harm to the state of new york because they've legalized gay marriage? >> i wouldn't phrase it that way in the sense that i think there's just a difference of opinion about whether all domestic relationships are in the eyes of the law and otherwise going to be the same as traditional marriage. i don't think they should be. >> why? in particular, what should gay couples, lesbian couples not have that straight couples do? >> well, i think we have a long-standing practice. it's social, it's legal,

tim pawlenty versus michelle bachmann.an's distraction is the entire presidential campaign on the line for tim pawlenty. let's look at how this started. tim pawlenty and michelle bachmann on "meet the press" in july earlier this month. >> i like congresswoman bachmann. have i campaigned for her. i respect her, but her record of accomplishment in congress is nonexistent. it's nonexistent. we're not looking for folks who, you know, just have speech capabilities. we're looking for folks that can lead a large enterprise in a public setting and drive it to conclusion. i've done that. she hasn't. snoo that was the first time, jonathan martin, that tim paulent where i went after bachmann. she didn't respond, and then yesterday it back a back and forth via press releases. michelle bachmann said executive experience is not an asset if it simply means bigger and more intrucive government. when i was fighting against the unconstitutional individual mandate on health care, governor pawlenty was praising it. i have fought against irres

carl paladinthe tim pawlenty ata cheap standard. at the job, every hour..r., kennedy and eisenhower would not have been people who should have been president of the united states. kennedy in fact had attisons disease and required heavy medication and back injuries which required even heavier. and did affect him far more than apparently has affected bachmann. i think we're going to in this day and age, however, she is going to have to disclose what medication, and see if any of them have a psychotrophic effect. this is a nur log call disease, not -- neurological disease. >> bret: juan? big deal? >> it's headache to tim pawlenty. he is at 2%. michele bachmann is at 30%. sorry, 16%. romney is at 30%. if you go into iowa, she is more than doubled his numbers in terms of what is coming up and what will be a definitive race for tim pawlenty, because he has got to defeat michele bachmann. he has to have a good showing in iowa to put himself to be a challenger for mitt romney, as he go into new hampshire. so i think that, you know, charles says he thought it was a

. >> tim pawlenty is taking cheap shops at a republican front-runner. tonight i'm going to defend michele bachmann. >> i'm not going to allow anyone to take a pufrmg at me. >> alan west refuses to apologize for his sexist remarks. today he says she owes him an apology. where's the outrage? >>> if you thought the defense of news corp. was odd, wait until you hear bill o'reilly's stance. >>> the president first tried to sell his plan to nancy pelosi and harry reid. and then the obstructionists came over to the white house. boehner and mk skon el. they have to convince members of their party to accept over a trillion dollars in revenue increases in order to take this zeal. don't hold your breath, it ain't gonna happen. republican leaders were with the president meeting today, freshman tea party bomb thrower joe waffle circ lsh circulating a letter not to agree with the plan. walsh is expecting to have at least 100 signatures in the coming days. if 100 house republicans won't vote for a plan with zero tax increases, there's no way on earth they're going to

notably tim pawlenty.is pouring everything into the hawkeye state planning a donze stops in next week alone. john harwood is there. great to see you. thanks, john for joining us. the ames poll and everything that is coming up really is make or break for tim pawlenty. he's got michele bachmann pushing him hard. now there's the possibility that before ames rick perry could get into it. >> reporter: exactly. if you look at the national polls tim pawlenty is stuck in the single digits. if you look at the iowa polls including the december edmonton register's iowa poll most recently he was also in single digits. this is state say jis ent to minnesota where he has got to make a breakthrough. in this state with only $1.5 million left according to the last financial report, he's going all in on this straw poll with the idea of finishing in the top tier. you have field staffers phoning people trying to get people out to his events. he's trying to show people that this is still a viable candidacy. >> and when we talk

you also bring up pawlenty. government shutdown in minnesota has put pawlenty in the headlines and here's what he had to say about that. >> both in '05 and now, you had democrats demanding that we raise taxes and raise spending and that's not what the people in this country need. not what our government finances. we have to get government spending under control. >> so, does this shut down help or hurt his campaign? >> i don't think this shutdown actually will impact his campaign. you know, he's currently not the governor and frankly, what's happening there now is familiar unfortunately, to so many americans in their own states and obviously kind of another version of what's playing out here in washington. i do think it gives pawlenty an opportunity, which he needs because pat's right. he's been sort of fading as michele bachmann has been gaining steam and obviously, mitt romney had quite a bit of steam for some time. so it gives pawlenty an opportunity to talk about the economy. to talk about his record as gover

pawlenty is much closer to president obama on everything from climate change to health care.s indeed. for the latest bout of this political fisticuffs, we are joined by michelle who writes for the daily beast. >> hello, martin. >> pawlenty and bachmann are similar in that they are both from minnesota and both ev evangelical christians and steeped in family values, so why are they spending so much time throwing barbs and attacking each other? >> well, pawlenty sees himself as not the establishment, but the moderate centrist in this field as opposed to michele bachmann who has always kind of been on the tea party fringe on this. in the latest round, i think that he came off pretty well, because if i were her, i would have fired back at the insults with a tim who? because at this point, he has no traction, and he needs to be throwing these punchps just to get a little bit of attention. >> because is this pawlenty realizing that he doesn't do po something, anything, his campaign is as arresting as that of jon huntsman and newt gingrich both of whom have ridden off into the sunse

tim pawlenty, romney, all them had to say this. here's romney. they all had their i told you so quotes ready. and orrin hatch from utah said yesterday, it's time for the poor to, quote, share some of the responsibility. could that be the new republican talking point, that the economy is struggling because the poor aren't paying enough in taxes? the economy and the race for the white house is our top story tonight. >>> also, is president obama ready to give away too much in talks with republicans? some democrats worry the president will give away the store on medicare, medicaid and social security without getting much in return. are they right? cowell could he get a better deal? >>> right off the cliff. terrii the tea party, they're willing to tank the economy in order to avoid a challenge from the right? we'll debate that one. >>> the news of the world scandal is a political scandal in london. former senior aide to britain's prime minister david cameron has been arrested in a growing scandal involving phone hacking and corruption. >>> finally, le

tim pawlenty, 3%.on huntsman, who has staked a lot of his campaign on winning new hampshire and had this big rollout with a lot of media coverage, only at 2% at this point. he is right there with herman cain and newt gingrich. surprising numbers there and very good numbers for mitt romney. we mentioned in that poll there, tim pawlenty, he also is not doing very well in that poll. he is hoping, obviously, to win iowa where is he staking all of his campaign and brought what is basically a pretty good political young gun on his squad, sarah huckabee sanders, the doubt of mike huckabee, who won the iowa caucuses back in 2008, she has joined his campaign. so you can say that tim pawlenty is looking for some huck luck. and sarah huckabee was a big part of the huckabee campaign and will be a big part of pawlenty's campaign. if pawlenty will do well in iowa, sarah huckabee will be a big bet to help him because right now, he needs all of the help he can get. >> jim acosta, thanks. your next political update in

tim pawlenty has found his target, it is michele bachmann.xt time they debate, two days before the straw poll? >> when john king questions your manhood on national tv, you better be prepared to respond. part of what bachmann makes her unique, if you will, is that she's more than willing to introduce legislation that she knows hasn't a chance of passing, but completely garners her the support. >> she channelsened angry and frustrated. >> she's more than happy to say that nothing i've ever done has become the rule of law, because i'm still in the trenches fighting for it, supporting it. tim pawlenty is a consensus builder, and that's a sellout. that's how she sells it. she has a dedicated following, even on capitol hill. >> but expectations are reversed bachmann has to win the straw poll? >> yes, i think so. >> no, absolutely not. >> let me make my argument. >> very quickly. >> 22 bachmann, nobody else is close. what's the argument for why she didn't win? >> i think both need strong showings in the straw poll. >> luke russert, shameless plug, g

i mean -- >> it's ridiculous. >> pawlenty's boring. he's a boring guy and he needs to spice things up. this is a missed opportunity. this guy said that michele bachmann was sexy and then he -- was that his statement that she was -- that they shouldn't say -- he was off base because he wasn't talking about her fitness for office, he was saying she is garnering support because she is quick on her feet and she's a little sexy. that's all she said. >> not a lot sexy. >> if pawlenty had said, i disagree, she's a hot momma -- that would be great. >> i thought republicans were the party that hated political correctness. >> i agree. they let me down here. >> he should have been like, michele bachmann is hot -- >> by the way [bleep] i. she's great. i don't know what that is. [bleep] whatever it is, we have to cut it out. >> sexy euphemism. >> i mean, i think there is nothing wrong with pointing out somebody has sex appeal. it bothers me that people bend over backwards out of fear, not because they are sorry but because they are scared. >> the o

but just a few hours later, pawlenty walked back his comments during this interview on fox news. >> you know, i think it's mostly a side show, greta. i've observed congresswoman bachmann, i've never seen her have a medical condition that would seem to be a concern. >> pawlenty's comments come as the former minnesota governor trails bachmann by 14 percentage points in the latest nbc news/"wall street journal" poll. >>> tiger woods does his best donald trump impersonation, telling his long-time caddy, you're fired. will he rebound in time for the next major pga event? i hope the next caddy says i want a salary, not a cut. >>> and it's bad when the weather guy uses the word heat dome. we'll ask bill karins if there's any relief in sight and we'll check on the conditions for the "atlantis" shuttle landing. that is live this morning all when "way too early" comes right back. i have astigmatism. my old contacts would sometimes move and blur my vision. then my eye doctor told me about acuvue® oasys for astigmatism. he said it's the only lens of its kind designed to realign naturally with every

. >> let's see where governor tim pawlenty is at.lion raised this quarter and the perception that he says. >> what kind of chance i have and how are the candidates doing and if anybody looks like they can win. my objective is that we cannot have president obama after you know next year. this has been, and look at what he has put us through with the whole debt thing. this is because the president doesn't lead. >> and interesting interpretation of the recent history there, but does anyone west of the hudson care about rudy julianny? >> well, you are talk to someone in the heartland and at the risk of sounding like a cranky person, both of them sound like teenagers. they run hard and don't win and they do things like build houses for the poor or become secretary of the state, and other guys don't win and they make a second career out of whining. i don't tolerate it ott ut of m kids and not from them. >> and they could write books? >> well, they can go off to make money if they want to, but not off of the backs of the american voters. at

gop presidential hopeful tim pawlenty joins me live in studio. plus, what the debt debate means politically for republicans in 2012 and the president's own re-election effort. analysis this morning from eugene robinson of "the washington post" and nbc news white house correspondent and political director chuck todd. captions paid for by nbc-universal television >>> good morning. breaking news in washington's effort to reach a debt reduction deal. speaker of the house john boehner issuing a surprising statement last night, abandoning efforts to reach a far-reaching $4 trillion deficit reduction plan. this is what he said, "the white house will not pursue a bigger debt reduction agreement without tax hikes. i believe the best approach may be to focus on producing a smaller measure." the rare sunday negotiating session with the president will continue as planned later today. joining me now live this morning for the very latest, the secretary of the treasury, tim geithner. mr. secretary, welcome back. >> nice to see you, david. >> what happened? >> w

this back and forth comes with pawlenty still trailing bachmann in the polls. for bachmann, the verbal sparring seems to come with at least some risk. it will likely draw even more attention to the iowa straw poll, less than three weeks away, and pawlenty seems to have the advantage of a larger, deeper iowa organization. the straw poll ballot was finalized over the weekend. nine names on it, two big names missing -- sarah palin and rick perry, largely because neither has announced nor campaigned in iowa, but the two may get straw poll votes anyway. >> the iowan who wants to support someone not declared growtyetfor president will a wr. >> the texas congressman likes his chances. >> i wish i could say i'm the frontrunner, no one is ahead of me, it's a shoo-in. the truth there's we can do it and will do very, very well and hopefully come in in first. >> now, ron paul has a history of doing well in straw polls. he's won several of them. the most recent was at the republican leadership conference in new orleans last month. paul has reason to think he can win out at

national polls for pawlenty. there's a pig problem in the iowa polls called rick perry and all of a sudden pawlenty is not in third place, he's in fourth or fifth place. >> you mentioned governor perry, i had a third issue i wanted to talk about, but let's focus on this, you think governor perry is and most people think he's definitely in. governor perry is smart politically to stay in the mix. the shuttle landed this morning and governor perry put out a statement saying unfortunately with the final landing of the shuttle "atlantis" and no plans for future missions this administration has set a significantly different milestone by shutting down our nation's legacy of leadership in human space flight and explorati exploration, and the president would disagree with that. the story to slap the current president of the united states, that's a pretty clear indication to me he wants to run. >> i think he is. it helps him in texas and nationally. the number of him nationally. the number of conservatives who e-mailed me

>> everybody likes pawlenty. to reach for the middle suggesting he would support the boehner plan. for far right, tea party types, still talking. >> is that republican party we're looking ats, this guy, looks great. huntsman, experience in business and certainly as a governor. incredibly popular out in utah. this guy is running for a republican party that hasn't existed in 30, 40 years. it's a pre-reagan party. >> it does seem so. >> what's he doing? >> exactly the same that obama in his speech was trying to appeal to ininvoking ronald reagan. >> romney and who could be the unromney? rick perry mixes it up because he's going to come in with conservative credentials, ethe evangelicals behind him. >> i still think people think that the former mayor of wasilla might jump in at the last minute. thank you, guys. you think she might? >> i'm not betting on it. >> 50/50. >> see? interesting. especially if the book makes big noise. thank you, michael hirsch and michael scherr. >>> among the hardest hit people during this

bachmann saying pawlenty is more like obama than anybody else, and then pawlenty saying bachmann is someonee two? >> look. i've met michele bachmann. she's a nice woman. she came to trump tower. tim pawlenty blew it during the debate. when he had his chance to go after romney care and he had a great chance and h they just ket lobbing it up, lobbing it up, and he refused to hit the ball. i think he blew it. when i saw that, it was like it's over. now, the problem with pawlenty, he's trying to be a tough guy. i see his clips today on your show. he's trying to be a tough guy, but he's not. you know, you can't be something that you're not, but hey, he's trying. >> governor perry, is he the wrong guy? governor hunts man, is he the wrong guy in your eye? >> huntsman hasn't caught on. perry might catch on. i met him once very briefly. he might catch on. it's going to be interesting to see. it's going to be a very interesting year, that i can tell you. >> so lucky you join us each and every monday, donald trump, thank you very much. >> thank you all. >> we know the world markets are watching washin

candidate pawlenty says now he regrets that vote.ow supports a constitutional amendment to define marriage as only between a man and a woman, and he wants to reinstate don't ask don't tell. he says his views have evolved over time. maybe lady gaga would just say this. ♪ hey, hey ♪ there's nothing else i can say ♪ ♪ hey, hey ♪ i wish you never looked at me that way ♪ >> coming up -- when glenn beck was forced off fox news, it was merely the end of one tv show on a 24-hour cable network. that's nothing compared to what is happening to one of rupert murdoch's other properties. has team murdock gone too far? a. ♪ machines have a voice. ♪ medical history follows you. it's the at&t network -- a network of possibilities... committed to delivering the most advanced mobile broadband experience to help move business... forward. ♪ [ male announcer ] the davis twins... ...are alike in nearly every way... ...right down to brushing their teeth. so how did only one get gingivitis? well, one in two people do. so i told karen about new crest pro-heal

which is, if you want someone to stand up to the democrats, you don't go for pawlenty.ontrast makes it harder. he was initial branding, purple stay conservative. the guy to bring people together. fix the problem. be confident and here it's a mess and he's trying to pitch in on her turf, or perry or palin's turf, doesn't really square up. >> really tough for pawlenty. running for president, comes more scrutiny. play for you a sound bite. the therapist and things that he said about gay americans that is making the rounds on the internet and making people unhappy. what was said on a radio program last year, unearthed by some democratic roots. take a listen. >> we have to understand barbarians need to be educated. they need to be disciplined and just because someone feels it or thinks it doesn't mean that we are supposed to go down that road. that's what's called the sinful nature, and we have a responsibility as parents and as authority figures not to encourage such thoughts and feelings to move into the action step. >> susan, that is the type of language that's going to m

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i think pawlenty may surprise some people. he's gotten a lot of key people involved in his campaign. he is aggressively campaigning throughout the state. so it's kind of interesting. here you've got two minnesotans competing. but they're not the only ones. i think you need to look at herman cane who's got a following here, and ron paul, and rick santorum says he's going to beat people's expectations. who knows what rick perry's write-in efforts may produce. it looks like he will get in the race after the straw poll. so it could be a wide open situation. who knows? is there may be others that i haven't even mentioned that could do better than expected. >> i wonder how you would assess governor perry's ability to in iowa.effectively what kind of an iowa candidate might he make? >> well, remember, george w. bush, who was the governor of texas at the time, won both the straw poll and the iowa caucuses and went on to be elected president of the united states twice. so being governor of a big state like texas, a state that's been ve

tim pawlenty wouldn't accept the spending demands. result?y won. >> he left minnesota with a budget deficit more than a billion dollars higher than when he took office, and now the people of minnesota are feeling the consequences. here's the key in all of this. this is the first state to do a government shutdown. what do you think other republican governors are doing right now? you think this is going to be, say, a microcosm? they shut her down in minnesota, and look what happened. let's shut us down, whatever state we're in. joining me tonight is arnie carlson. good to have you with us tonight. >> my pleasure. thank you. >> do you think it can be presented as a possible microcosm that people are watching minnesota and this shutdown of the government? what's your take on that? >> i think both vice president mondale and me are very, very concerned about that. i think our viewpoint is minnesota will rapidly become nationalized by a variety of interest groups coming in with large amounts of money and will ultimately paralyze our political decisi

how are tim pawlenty and mitt romney handling this? -- the direct criticism of her said she wasn't offered the job because she could have these blinding headaches at a critical moment during her presidency. then he walks it back. the same thing that he did when he said obamney care, then he said, well, i wasn't really saying that. again, at some level if you have all of these men, whether herman cain, tim pawlenty, who are jumping on michele bachmann criticizing her, it does humanize her and you do wonder if there's going to be a backlash and almost a hillary clinton moment when she's in new hampshire and she had all of these men attacking her and that she starts to be a more legitimate figure in the race. >> before we go to break, jeff johnson, react to this new ad from tim pawlenty. watch. >> faced an opponent experts can't be beat. you fight, you bleed. to cam back we need a leader with a proven proven record, n rhetoric. join me and prove the experts wrong. >> wow! think about that. he's already running the oh, my god, everybody's

not necessarily somebody other than tim pawlenty. though, the people here in austin were still unaffiliated and looking to somebody like rick perry. one of the things that perry heard as part of this gathering, a really blue chip republican bundler money guys, is that he's got a problem, not in texas where he can raise $4, $5, $12, $20 million easily, but in places like new york city and wall street where some of the big money in this key place of republican fundraising isn't convinced yet that whether they are put off by the secessionist talk and his religious affiliations or the suggestion he is the tea party candidate who would not compromise. wall street doesn't like this no compromise approach, i don't know. but i know that perry has been given word that he's got a weakness in this very key money source and he's going to have to take steps if he hopes to raise the kind of money he would need from wall street, new york, and the traditional business republican establishment. >> which means we should probably look out for a rick pe

candidate pawlenty says now he regrets that vote. also now supports a constitutional amendment to define marriage as only between a man and a woman, and he wants to reinstate don't ask don't tell. he says his views have evolved over time. maybe lady gaga would just say this. ♪ hey, hey ♪ there's nothing else i can say ♪ hey, hey ♪ i wish you never looked at me that way ♪ >> coming up -- when glenn beck was forced off fox news, it was merely the end of one tv show on a 24-hour cable network. that's nothing compared to what is happening to one of rupert murdoch's other properties. has team murdock gone too far? 8ú >>> after 168 years, the rupert murdoch empire announced today that the phone-hacking scandal-grabbing international headlines would be the undoing of british tabloid giant "news of the world." today, murdoch's son, james, told his staff this sunday's edition of the paper would be its last ever. the paper is accused of paying off police while hacking into the phones of celebrities, members of the royal family, a murdered teen

last night tim pawlenty had an event in these headquarters here.ou see behind me his political team is having their morning meeting now to strategize and try to get people out for that straw poll. tim pawlenty is in boone, iowa this morning and they realize, they've only got a 1.4 million dollars left in cash as of the last report. he didn't raise nearly as much as mitt romney did. they've got to throw everything into this to have a strong showing. try to prevent michele bachmann, others, rick perry, from overtaking him, overshadowing him. he still has a plan to emerge as the alternative to mitt romney. keeping fund-raising going through the end of the year, winning the caucuses in january. not an easy road for tim pawlenty you know, chuck, but in a race as wide open and unpredictable as this, can't count him out just yet despite all the obituaries being written now. >> you have seen the sarah huckabee impact? >> absolutely. sarah huckabee is in the room behind knee now. she is running that iowa straw poll and, of course, her father, mike huckabee,

"tim pawlenty's presidential campaign rests on this question.nfrontation with president obama deliver their nomination to a man who tends toward soft-spoken and bland?" >> if people want entertainer in chief, they should vote for someone else. we had three years of soaring rhetoric and a president who gave false hopes to the country. if you want somebody with executive leadership, not just rhetoric, but results on taxes, on spending, on health care, on jobs and the like, then vote for me. the other thing i would say, david, is i've got the record of toughness better than anybody else in this race. my goodness, i was the first governor in minnesota's history to shut down the government. i set a record for vetoes. i took more money out of the budget using an executive authority than all of the other governors combined in my state, so, in terms of demonstrating fortitude? >> right. >> i'm an old hockey player. i've been in more fights than the rest of the candidates combined. >> that's good that you've got a fighting spirit, but look at how the ame