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tim pawlenty. and i would like to start with you, mr. pawlenty. you know mitt romney well.here the president was, praising the effectivaneness of massachusetts health coverage that was signed into law in 2 it,000 and making the point that in the first month, only about 123 had signed up. by the end of the year, it was in the thousands. did he make the case? >> well, martin, good afternoon to you, and the president, of course, noted some of the similarities between the massachusetts plan and the affordable care act. and but there are also some important differences. he noted that in massachusetts it was done on a bipartisan basis. of course, in washington, d.c., it wasn't. in massachusetts -- >> and we know why that is, don't we, sir? >> yeah, in massachusetts. >> we do know why that is, don't oh we, because the president repeatedly referenced the fact that governors in various states and half of congress are doing absolutely nothing to help the rollout of the affordable care act. >> of course, martin. but the point is, simply, there are some significant differences and we c

joining me now is former governor of minnesota and former presidential candidate republican tim pawlenty now with the services roundtable, represents financial services companies. the last thing you did in politics was attempt to navigate the mind field of a republican primary, a national republican primary, it should be noted in running for president. put yourself in lindsey graham's shoes. there are certain things he cannot back away from. he is one of the architects of the comprehensive immigration reform bill. he is on the record being quite angry at ted cruz and his ilk for the government shutdown. if you are him, if you are lindsey graham, how do you go out and win that primary in south carolina? >> well, chris, good evening. and, first of all, before we talk about the primary in south carolina, let's just make sure we understand lindsey graham and his motives. i've known lindsey for years. he's a member of the united states armed services. he's been involved in security and military matters with passion and sincerity for many, many years. and to say, you know, his concern about be

former governor tim pawlenty, appreciate your time. >> thank you. >> john judas with "the new republic" where he just wrote the cover story on the future of the tea party. john, i want to begin with a little senate hate, because i think it's something you and i see eye to eye on. can we get rid of the hold? why is it the case that any member of the senate can single-handedly block a nominee by not giving unanimous consent? >> it's not in the constitution. it's a part of the tradition of the senate. so is the filibuster. i think that those kind of measures make it very hard for our democracy to function. >> and not only that, right, there is a way in which in the past, those have been bound by a certain kind of institutional norms, traditions, et cetera, that we have gotten out past recently, particularly from the republican party? >> in the past, for instance, filibusters were extraordinarily rare. what i remember from my childhood was over civil rights. that was the main issue. but they happen once in a decade, maybe. but in the last 20 years, they've happened repeatedly, and it's bec

teacher and disenfranchises into humanizes children it's kind of marrying the kids' behavior and this pawlenty and conditioning where they they learn in a certain setting and due to rewards and it is just all kind of automated there is this the suture out and if we do not stop this kind of standardization and privatization of the education industry is the future that we're going to see and what's the danger of thinking of children as just another thing on a conveyor belt churned out by corporate america the corporations are now sub contracting with the public sector just like you see in the military industrial complex so as a case in point charter schools charter schools by charter advocates are widely called public schools well they get public money they're authorized by the public but they're run by either non-profits or corporations they have a contract with the government they are contractors and i don't like that who hired edward snowden a government contractor and this is a credibly lucrative it's an incredibly lucrative field which is made more lucrative by all of these standardized tes

. >> tim pawlenty now has the financial services roundtable and he joins c-span on "washington journal" to discuss the debt limit on it government shutdown and then more with wisconsin congressman ron kind. in a conversation on how the u.s. ranks when it comes to literacy and math skills among young adults. our guest is from georgetown university. "washington journal" is live every morning at 7:00 a.m. eastern. right now on c-span2, a discussion from this morning's "washington journal" on the health care market places that open for business this month. >> today we continue our ongoing look at the implementation of the affordable care act with the help of kaiser health news. we are joined with julie for the discussion of new health insurance exchanges that represent a key component of the law. ms. appleby has talked about the shadowing of the shutdown that we have talked about. so how would you grade the running so far? >> is not looking good at the moment. before they opened, there was a discussion. they were downplaying expectations and there was talk that they could have some bugs an

tim pawlenty, president and ceo of the financial services roundtable and former governor of minnesotat, the tireless dana bash. and former clinton white house press secretary, joe lockhart. i want to start with this "washington post" report. business groups stand by boehner, plot against tea party. there's a quote from a man named dirk van doggen, lobbyist for the association of wholesale distributors who has known boehner for a while. says i don't know anybody who takes the side of the taliban minority. i assume he's referring to the tea party. tim, is that how the business world views what happened over the last three weeks, the taliban minority seized control of the house republicans? >> a few things. first, i don't think people should put a taliban label on any elected representative or public servant. that's over the line in terms of rhetoric and what that implies. two, the business community is more pragmatic than the tea party in terms of their politics and desired outcomes. but the idea that they are going to come in and take out tea party members is probably misunderstood. th

host: governor pawlenty is now the ceo of financial services roundtable. thank you for your time.s conversation continues. we will cross the political aisle and talk to ron kind of wisconsin. adultstudy finds that score below average on worldwide literacy and mathematics tests. >> the associated press reporting that international stock markets perked up to date -- perked up today. the prevailing view in markets appears to be that a deal will be agreed to between rubble can -- the twin republicans -- between republicans. inotiators are meeting geneva for talks aimed at curbing nuclear ambitions. meeting, the foreign minister said he hopes iran and the west would be able to work out a roadmap toward a final resolution by tomorrow. the two-day talks bring together iran's representatives with those from the p5 plus 1. president obama takes time out from negotiations with congress to award the nation's highest honor on a former army captain. he is being held for bravery during combat in afghanistan in 2009. c-span is covering the event. you can watch it on our website, c-span.org. thos

kind of politics we have unfortunately witnessed of the last several years receive the politics of pawlenty and compromise starts rising, then maybe these awful three weeks with him and with the. >> senator murray. >> well, tonight i am delighted to join this team who has worked so hard. my hat is off to the senator for is tremendous work in passion as well as my fellow senators and never gave up, set up for our families and tina these that are hurting the reason that we join with all of them reading a sigh of relief. took far too long, for too many families were hurt while we worked to end this crisis, but there is finally landed in the tunnel. here in the senate democrats and republicans work together on a path of this crisis. does not solve every problem today, but the path we are on on the open the government, take the threat of default of the table and allow democrats and republicans to no good in a room and negotiate with an asking the american people to pay the price i am very glad personally and after six months of going on the floor time and time again and asking to go to a budget

going forward is that it's not just the party of ronald reagan anymore but it is the party over tim pawlentyt probably isn't going to last. but it will last long enough to keep a civil the civil war going all the way through the republican presidential nominating contest which will produce a nominee that can possibly appeal to the middle who will decide the electionspirit when we look at this thing to republicans that one, democrats really try to make kentucky competitive a few minutes ago. and that is when we see how they are going to go on the offense of, it's very unpopular and they have this big problem on their hand in big states. >> etc. when you ran the committee and one of the tea party challenges, due to one of the six senators that have to face these primaries. mitch mcconnell did the right thing. but it's a difficult thing that he did with respect to his primary on saturday, talking about all the tea party people and the extreme republicans who vote in the primaries. >> it is the wealthy guy has decided that mitch mcconnell is very conservative but is not conservative enough and t