it would be a gradual paydown, or the taxes come out of your pockets gradually. >> i know they are proposingsort of a downpayment in january and then stretching out and giving the ways and means committee, the appropriations committee, and the other committees in the house instructions about changing the cuts. sounds -- that sounds a lot like the reconciliation bill under reagan which we passed. they were set to take effect, and at the last minute, we lost our side, and did away with it. -- lost our spine and did away with it. but that is, i think, the same principle. it may be the only way to go. we'll have to see. >> on the issue of the c.r., do you think there is a chance you could get this done in the lame duck? >> well, obviously i want to see the individual bills passed. in the house we spent all year in 150 hearings. we constructed all 12 of the bills. we made severe cuts where we had to to abide by the overall numbers. we terminated 150 different agencies or commissions and the like. all of that had to go to these individuals bills, of which seven passed the house floor. so we have a

. >> i like he mentioned the debt to two paydown and is eager to work with a bipartisan debt commissiono we know that he knows it is there. we did not hear that talked about earlier. so now he acknowledges that. so far we have not seen him do anything in that direction. and. >> but that is not enough. >> i'd like he called how the g.o.p. with their plans for the next four years. he could do that talking to a mirror. [laughter] i like the etfs he attacked the romney for his privilege where he said if you need money for college ask your parents. this is the petty narcissism. they're not that different if they cannot be substantive, leaded be entertaining. john: not that different because they're all from privilege. >> right. or in a place of privilege. the race is millionaire verses multimillionaire. i feel unspoken four. john: implication of magical thinking they will make it happen. we can build big factories and double exports. and if we create 1 million new manufacturing jobs. and with the small this white knight 2 million jobs? if we are just playing numbers out of thin air. [laughte