. >> catherine: the los angeles times reports that matthew pond said doris payne made the promise after she was released from a northern california prison where she was serving time for crimes out of san diego county. >> catherine: payne was arrested tuesday after she was suspected of stealing a $22,000 ring from a palm desert store on oct. 21. >> catherine: over more than five decades, payne claims to have swiped millions of dollars'the u.s. and europe by posing as a well-to-do buyer. she has four theft convictions since 2009 in southern california. >> catherine: today marks the 2 year anniversary of one of the most viral videos in the people behaving badly franchise and we thought we'd share it again so we don't soon forget. in this edition of people behaving badly. (male announcer): now, here's stanley roberts who found some people behaving badly. >> reporter: this particular cart pulling requires three people and the driver was on my own. this guy started making

finally, payne's partner fires one last time. payne sees the suspect's gun >> in fact, the video of this shootout is often used by police training academies as a cautionary tale. when it comes to police work, always expect the unexpected. >> i've been in multiple chases, you know, where they either end where the suspect gives up or they crash. and the repetitiveness of that happening makes you complacent because you think that's what's going to happen in this situation. and it wasn't. >>> coming up, a texas trooper under attack. and an entire police department under investigation. when "caught on camera: the thin blue line" continues. [ will ] on my right is the new dodge durango. she's got it all. including 25 em-puh-guh's highway. what? muh-puh-guh's? me-me, em-puh-guh's? em-puh-guh's? i don't know what that stands... i mean, you don't need 25 of anything. unless it's a euphemism for babes. [ laughs ] then...then it's not enough. ♪ to severe plaque psoriasis... the frustration... covering up. so i talked with my doctor. he pres

tom payne and his pamphlet of common sense. there are many examples. i'm arguing that when we use social media today, it is a reversion to what media operated like centuries before us. >> the distinct between letterwriting and the conversation was further blurred by the custom of dictating outgoing letters described and having incoming letters read aloud. you were someone like cicero or caesar, you would have ascribed. caesar was famous for being able to dictate to letters at once. you would be dictating letters to them. you would have a staff of messengers who would carry these messages to your friends. incoming messages brought a scroll. romans like cicero and caesar were capable of reading and writing. they got more done if they use describes. the role played by scribes and messengers, most of her slaves, is akin to the role that broadband plays for us today. the reason why we can do social media that is very tweet -- cheap and fast. when the romans it was also cheap and fast. they had slavery. it was cheaper than it had been before. the romans were

>> i would say there's three -- >> rose: alexander payne for sure. >> kazan, hitchcock, alexander payne. the others quentin i would think would be there but i worked for three hours for him on django so i didn't have much to see. jack as a director was absolutely fabulous. >> rose: what is jack going to do? will he continue to act? >> he's sharp as a tack! he gets it. who could sit through this pathetic laker team this year and he's there every night and they play in the gym, that's all. that was the wonderful thing about cannes. when we went to cannes i'd never been in a gym as big as cannes. that's 2,000 plus people watching a movie that you're in. >> rose: you've never been in a gym that big? >> i call them gyms. movie theaters, palaces. i just -- the wonderful thing about cannes for me was the explosiveness of the reaction the minute the movie start and alexander and i were next to each other and we looked at each other and we said "they got it and they're reading subtitles." so we said maybe at home they'll even get it more but they got it over there which made paramount realize th

payne's company owns paradise poker, and it appears that he's right.uter suspicious about alex. warnings kept popping up: "you must be 18 or older." and then he was rejected. but then alex did what most kids would: he tried another site and another. on the third try, without any questions about his age, he was approved. in five minutes, alex was playing roulette. >> place your bids, please. >> in ten minutes... >> all right, all black. >> he was 100 bucks in the hole. >> [groans] [laughs] no... >> here's what i'm thinking, that the pool of potential underaged gamblers is so much more enormous for you, the online company, than it is for the casino. >> without a doubt. which is why we have to be 20 times better. but it's also why we also have to be regulated. unless you force companies to have these procedures, you're letting them all in. >> payne argues that if the u.s. legalized i-gaming, all of the problems associated with gambling could be better controlled. let's talk about then addicted gamblers, obsessive gamblers. >> yeah. >> this is a huge probl

charles payne? >> walmart's created 2 million jobs in this country alone. i've seen them spring up in places where they spring up people arerateful, grateful for the jobs, grateful for the ability to buy things they uldn'tefore. i ink it's a godsend for this country. critics, what have they done? who are they helping? it's amazing. we know it's a power grab, most of these people are unionist whoz want to take over the country who people who don't believe in capitalism to begin with. their track record compared with walmart is nothing. >> consumers are getting a good deal. you look at what's going on in d.c. if it's such a terrible place to work, why are 23,000 people fight forge 600 openings in new stores there. it is harder to get hired at the walmart in washington, d.c., than it is to get into harvard. one of your favorite things. 5.6% of people who apply get in to harvard, 2.6% of people plying to the job -- that might have hurt you. >> did you have a quote of italians that would be let in. >> i'm italian. you seem to forget that. >> she's italian? >> i

fox on top of expensive history, may be repeating itself, ben stein, charles payne, adam and charlie gasparino. charles, where are you, it looks like boynton beach, florida? >> yes, actually this is where we're taping but i'm down in palm beach where you could be the king. everywhere i go they say where's neil. some asking for ben and only one dig for charlie. that's the way it goes. >> don't tell me that person was at a strip club. >> sounds like it. >> charles what do you make of that, that we already now started addressing the problems with this law but now i'm beginning to suspect come the costs. what do you think? >> well, we're talking already 300,000 into medicaid, a program that was bust to begin with. we're talking about by the way it was never suggested or i've never heard the president say taxpayers were subsidized, health care insurance for people who have jobs, in fact up to 400% above poverty, a brand new entitlement, that's going to cost trillions of dollars, and by the way you had a plan that was supposedly substandard we'll get you a better one, like a banker telling

payne has four theft convictions in the last four years.he claims to have stolen millions of dollars worth of jewels in the u.s. and europe over the last 50 years. unbelievable. >>> an incredibly brave texas police officer sharing her story just days after being shot in the face. ann carrizales there. a mom, ex-marine. she was pursuing suspects in a high-speed chase when the suspects fired at her. carrizales didn't slow down. she just called for backup. eventually, she got the lead officers and got the suspect. >> what i was thinking at the time was, i need to stay in this fight. >> if she didn't get in pursuit, most likely there would not have been justice. >> officer carrizales was also shot in the chest. her superiors believe her kevlar vest saved her life. >>> in medical news, that early cup of coffee may be doing more harm than good. >> no way i'm giving up that early coffee. i don't care what i'm about to say. the world's leading neuroscientists say many of us are drinking coffee too early in the morning. the reason, when we first wak

dennis: let's make a little money with charles payne. charles: i've mentioned this stock a couple times before. how is said there were three numbers i liked in this business, 20, 35,005. after that era show, number will go a lot higher. this company has three areas of business. the seating, interior, engineering, thermal. the last quarter the business is up 34%. the market exploded. again, i have to tell you something, trading 2.5 times sales, this kind of top line growth i think they will continue to move higher. dennis: you would think they have a sense of humor. >> it is so funny. you know how i discovered this company? and they were ordering the new doors. that is my first initially discovered it, obviously ably associated with this is going very well. just a segue a little bit. the global economy being amazing. the average american, it amazes me why they never talk about it. not apple being 66% of its revenue outside of this century. who heard of these airlines? 26 billion from boeing. it is amazing, people need to wake up. a global

from director alexander payne. alexander payne has made six movies, but this is... the first time he doesn't have a screenwriting credit. [man] and, aaron and kevin battle... over which film is best: "let me in" versus "let the right one in." why can't people just appreciate international filmmaking? they can, and i love international filmmaking. yeah, okay, so then why did this need to be made? [man] all right here... on "just seen it." ♪ ♪♪ has a history of selfishness and greed. -i owe you. -yes, you do. [man] when he descends into the world of drug trafficking, he finds himself in over his head. if you're not in, you need to tell me. why? because you don't know someone 'til you know what they want. [man] not knowing who to trust may cost him everything. -how bad is it? -i'd say pretty bad. [man] in "the counselor." hi, i'm zorianna. -i'm salim. -and i'm sean. next up is "the counselor," directed by ridley scott... and written by cormac mccarthy. we've all just seen it. zorianna, counsel me on this movie. okay, well, the screenplay was written by cormac mccarthy,

payne's history of theft, by the way, dates back to 1953. and her 60-year crime spree has inspired a documentary. >>> time, now, for the weather across the nation. sunny and clear in the western half of the country. mild santa ana winds will quiet down in southern california. clear along the atlantic coast. clouds will move in later on. rain drenching the center of the country, from texas up to the great lakes. >> chicago, 55. minneapolis, 39. a balmy 58 in boston. 62 in new york. atlanta, 68. 84 in miami. dallas, 62. l.a. will be 76. salt lake, 54. 79 in phoenix. and 50 in seattle. >>> coming up, the new ipad seems to be a hit. >>> plus, good news for home buyers who might lack a bit of cash. banks are coming to the rescue. >>> and caught in the shooting chaos in l.a.x. now, we're hearing from the victim who crawled for his life. we hear from him for the first time. stick around. >>> getting easier to get into the housing market. major banking now offering mortgages with just 5% down. that compares to 20% required after the housing bubble b

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the verdict, guilty on both counts of murdering the two adults, cater and payne.ayne williams was sentenced to serve two life terms. >> people only wanted to look at the negative side because they wanted in their heart for this case to be over and for wayne to be the atlanta monster. they wanted closure at any cost. >> leaving court, homer williams walked by the prosecutor's table. >> he looked at us and called us sons-of-bitches. >>> still to come, no verdict in the deaths of any of the children. >> even if it takes 30 trials, i don't care, you know. prove it. [ mom ] with my little girl, every food is finger food. so i can't afford to have germy surfaces. but after one day's use, dishcloths can redeposit millions of germs. so ditch your dishcloth and switch to a fresh sheet of bounty duratowel. look! a fresh sheet of bounty duratowel leaves this surface cleaner than a germy dishcloth, as this black light reveals. it's durable, cloth-like and it's 3 times cleaner. so ditch your dishcloth and switch to bounty duratowel. the durable, cloth-like picker-upper. it's n

they say payne dressed up, using fake names and elaborate stories when she swiped the jewels. >> i takealleged victim doesn't think she will stay there long. >> she will be out again and doing it to somebody else. >> reporter: payne was sentenced to the maximum, five years windy bars in 2011. she was recently released, serving only half the time. >> amazing story. >>> big change for fans of kraft macaroni and cheese. kraft plans to remove yellow dye from some types of the pasta. they will be taken out of the varieties with kid-friendly shapes like sponge bob. the traditional macaroni and cheese will not be affected by the change. interesting here. some of the dyes -- the new dyes will come from paprika, which is better than food dye. >> whole grains. less saturated fat. i grew up on this specific brand. >> of course. >> until i had children i didn't look into whether it was more -- you know, better for them to have this or the other brand. i grew up and i'm okay. i figure oh, well. >> we're still standing, right. >> but applaud the fact they have done this. natural much better. >> kraft

and then, charles payne has a great segment planned for today.ore individual investors getting back into the market. that is good news, right? making some terrible mistakes once they do so. making some money on "markets now." you really love, what would you do?" ♪ [ woman ] i'd be a writer. [ man ] i'd be a baker. [ woman ] i wanna be a pie maker. [ man ] i wanna be a pilot. [ woman ] i'd be an architect. what if i told you someone could pay you and what if that person were you? ♪ when you think about it, isn't that what retirement should be, paying ourselves to do what we love? ♪ connell: some breaking news from new haven connecticut on the campus of yale university. university is saying they had a confirmed report of a person with a gun either on or near the yale campus at old campus. the central part of the yale university campus. i get a person on or near that area with a gun. do not have any information at this point. i was a text sent out to the community at 10:50 a.m. as we get more information we will certainly bring it to you. meantime b

payne. creating an environment that fits high standards and helps everyone including our students as capable of - contributing and accountability. thanks good night >> (clapping). >> thank you. madam president and members of the board we would like to present a special tribute this evening or evening a colleague who passed away san francisco unified school district caveat and english learner advocate. her husband and daughter is here. is michelle here as well. the san francisco unified school district honor the memory of our educator and english advocate. during here career she was an administrator at the consult department and what is actively involved with the b cc and this latino america association. her continuous advocacy made a positive difference in our schools and community. we would like to present this to you, sir >> (clapping) >> on behalf of my family and myself we would like to thank the board and the san francisco unified school district for this recognition. thank you >> (clap

payne has four theft convictions in the last four years. have stolen millions of dollars worth of jewels in the u.s. and europe over the last 50 years. >> wow. >>> an incredibly brave texas police officer sharing her story just days after being shot in the face. a mom, ex-marine. she was pursuing suspects. she just called for backup. eventually, she got the lead officers and got the suspect. >> what i was thinking at the time was, i need to stay in this fight. >> if she didn't get in pursuit, most likely there would not have been justice. >> another officer was shot in the chest. her superiors believe her kevlar vest saved her life. >>> that early cup of coffee may be doing more harm than good. >> no way i'm giving up that early coffee. i don't care what i'm about to say. the world's leading neuroscientists say many of us are drinking coffee too early in the morning. the reason, our bodies are flush with cortisol. and it jump-starts our energy. >> and adding caffeine to cortisol forces the body to crash sooner. the time for coffee, between

adam: we'll make money with charles payne. talking about some other social network other people should pay attention to. >> i happen to think linkedin is better investment. they have a track record we can follow. they have done extraordinarily well as public company. they had a great earnings report recently. the stock pulled back because expectations are when they are. they should do one 1/2 billion dollars for fiscal year. they should be profitable. they have different lines of businesses including a subscription business. so, you know the questions that you have for twitter, how do you monetize it? what is going on? will they ever make money a lot have been answered at least with linkedin they have. tracy: i like this better because i no so many people have used it successfully. it's a business thing. it is for work. there are people out of work. they want to get in touch with people. for some twitter is just social goofing around, right? there is no point to it. >> right. tracy: there is an end goal. i want a job. i want t

he's currently starring in critically acclaimed new film by alexander payne called "nebraska" which iso our show. >> that's right. i got to say, i'm so happy for you and congrats on this new movie "nebraska" that you're in. you're amazing in it, dude. >> thank you very much. >> jimmy: you know we're fans of you here -- [ applause ] >> thank you. >> jimmy: you killed it. you killed it. so good, the critics are loving it. it's -- it's a family story. >> yes. >> jimmy: "nebraska." you're very close with your family. >> yes. >> jimmy: you've brought out pictures of your family before. >> yeah. >> jimmy: and tonight you brought -- you said that you -- back stage your mom is very close to you, your mom googles you all the time. >> she loves checking -- like on an hourly basis she will check in on what is out there about me. >> jimmy: yeah. she will google anything. >> yeah. >> jimmy: about you. and she left you a voicemail and you brought the voicemail? >> yes, i did. this is a particularly interesting voicemail. >> jimmy: let's listen to will forte's mom. >> hi, honey. if you look under wil

and our very own charles payne.y, you got roped into this because you are somebody who looks at college admissions and the yield rate we all call it. so if there are 23,000 people trying to get 600 jobs, that yield rate is 2.6%. 5.7% of people who apply to harvard get into harvard. it is easier to get into harvard than to get one of these jobs at walmart! are you shocked? >> i'm devastated. i think that is very sad actually statistically speaking. if there are that many people, understand the employment rate in that area is higher than it is nationwide. if that many people are looking for 600 jobs, god, we've got a problem. melissa: that's really something. charles payne, walmart is supposed to be horrible company and terrible place to work. employees have canned food drive for thanksgiving with each other. people are trying to unionize, annual wage for associate is 12.67, almost 13 bucks is terrible not acceptable yet 23,000 people want to work there. >> walmart, to be honest is godsend for this country and a lot o

payne's history of thefts dates back to 1953. her 60-year crime spree inspired a documentary. >>> former councilman in california pleaded guilty to accepting what is believed to be the biggest bribe ever taken by a public official. marcello cothought he would be paid $2.3 million for guaranteeing a rezoning vote. turns out the deal was part of a sting operation and he is facing up to 13 years in prison. >>> a frightening end to a long flight for passengers at the montreal airport. the cabin filled with smoke as they waited to get off the plane. the captain ordered an emergency evacuation. the truck carrying baggage burst in to flames. seven people suffered from smoke inhalation. 250 passengers were on the flight from morocco. >>> the order comes five years after this crash outside of buffalo airport which killed 50 people. the victims families had been waging a relentless campaign ever since to upgrade pilot training. here's jason grinour of our buffalo station the >>> dressed in signature red familiesame over in victory over the

potential takeover rumors maybe by ibm according to our own charles payne. spending on research and expanding retail presence. up over 100% and what a great performer and a new high today. back to you. connell: thank you, nicole. more on obamacare. new developments in moment. we'll focus on gubernatorial races one in new jersey and one i said a moment ago, in virginia, where the civil war in the republican party is playing out for all to see. joining us from washington, d.c., ron christie, former special assistant to former president george w. bush. always good to have ron on. chris christie, no relation, new jersey or is it ken cuccinelli in the state of virginia? those are two different republicans, both in the news today. cuccinelli, close race with terry mcauliffe. christie is expected to run away with it in new jersey. who is the future of the party? >> i think future of the party is more like ken cuccinelli. connell: really? >> even though i was born in new jersey there is no relation. connell: exactly. >> what you have here, ken cuccinelli current att

coop tore payne. he out runs everyone for 60 yards and the touchdown. oodson wins 25-13. clonials blew the lead and out scored the hurricanes 12-4. dw wins 71-63. >> and the ravens lead the steelers 22-14 in the fourth quarter. >> busy day throughout the league. >> we all have thanksgiving pie. o w >> thanksgiving and hanukkah fall on the same day. we're less than an hour from the official start to black friday and lots of you are looking for deals and the holiday weekend forecast. you can read all stories and more on wjla.com. decpwh if you are curious about how the first family celebrated thanksgiving. the white house released the dinner menu. it includes turkey, honey baked ham, two kinds of stuffing, mack rone any and cheese, a few egetables and for dessert nine different pies. ♪ black friday deals up in the store. ♪ ♪ getting presents and so much more. ♪ ♪ that's my holiday, ♪ that's my kind of holiday. ♪ buy today, come back for more. ♪ ♪ save next time you shop in store. ♪ ♪ that's my kind of holiday. ♪ it's b black friday ♪ we're shopping deals ♪ in little black d

he kept it in ruth and michael payne's garage. >> it looked like camping equipment. i never occurred to michael that it might be a gun. >> in less than four hours president kennedy will be dead. back inside the hotel, the fashionable mrs. kennedy makes a grand entrance at a breakfast speech. and her husband can't resist a joke. >> i was the man that accompanied her to paris. >> john kennedy was highly intelligent, witty and charming man. >> after breakfast, the kennedys fly to dallas. a stop some of his advisers thought was unfriendly territory. they land at love field for the next leg of their two-day trip. the election is 12 months away. >> as we arrive at least 5,000 people behind the line. >> secret service agent clint hill is assigned to protect mrs. kennedy. >> the crowds were enormous throughout the city of dallas. >> traveling with the kennedys are texas governor john connolly and his wife nellie. >> as soon as the president finished the receiving line, he headed for the crowd to shake hands. >> they shake hands because the whole idea of being there in texas

to payn chase will have up to $13 billion following an -- intointo the thanks the bank's mortgage backed securities. >> i am proud to join our partners in an unprecedented , ine of federal partnership announcing a landmark settlement was jpmorgan chase for its conduct that contributed to the global financial crisis that brought our economy to its knees. >> this may just be the start of jpmorgan's battle. the bank is holding $23 million itself forand braces further litigation. the settlement indicates the justice department is intent on hitting wall street where it hurts -- its bottom line. >> it definitely shows a tougher, more retributive attitude on the part of the u.s. government. at the same time, this is a record penalty without anyone to identify who the culpable executives were who made these criminal decisions. financial institutions may face similar fates. between them they have already paid hundreds of millions of dollars in compensation to federal charges. >> in france there are a lot of happy football fans, quite a few exhausted ones as well. there were celebrations far into

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i really like, which is not the most cheerful one, is this movie "nebraska" directed by alexander payneholiday movie because it's about a family coming together in this little town in nebraska. kind of reluctantly. also a father-son story with a terrific performance by bruce dern as this guy starting to lose it a little bit. an aging nebraskaen who lives in montana who thinks he won one of those sweepstakes. he got one of those letters that says you may have won a million dollars. he persuades his son to drive him to pick up the money, and they stop in his hometown along the way where memories and faces from the past pop up. >> we have a clip, where bruce dern is going to claim the money that he insists he won. >> listen to me, you didn't win anything. it's a complete scam. you have to stop this, okay? >> i'm running out of time. >> you don't even have a suitcase. >> i'm not staying there. >> dad, i can't let you go. >> none of your business. >> yes, it is. i'm your son. >> then why don't you take me? >> i can't just drop everything and drive to lincoln, nebraska. >> what else you got g

tracy: long-term investment, charles payne ahead on hot belly sandwich jobs.hat that is but did you buy the stock? ashley: maybe not. caroline kennedy sworn in as ambassador to japan just days ahead of the 52 anniversary of her father's assassination. we will be right back. ask me what it's like to get your best night's sleep every night. [announcer] why not talk to someone who's sleeping on the most highly recommended d in america? ask me about my tempur-pedic. ask me how fast i fall asleep. ask me about staying asleep. [announcer] tempur-pedic owners are more satisfied than owners of any traditional mattress brand. tempur-pedic. the most highly recommended bed in america. now sleep cooler with extra cooling comfort on our bestselling tempur-breeze beds. visit tempurpedic.com to learn more, and find a retailer near you. and this park is the inside of your body. see, the special psyllium fir in metamucil actually gels to trap some carbs to help maintain healthy blood sugar levels. metamucil. 3 amazing benefits in 1 super fiber. you really love, what would you

ben stein, davgen mcdowell, and charles payne. night and day. >> night and day. it boils down to one word, accountability. it's what drives the pri-is the sector. bottom line, new york stock exchange has to please members, shareholders and investors. they have to go out and do a fantastic job. this obama care exchange, it was driven by two things. ideology and ego. i want it on october 1. well, we haven't veed it. put it out on october 1. that's what it boils down to, this president is not accountable. no one who works for him is not acuntable, not just on this, but a slew of events. >> practice makes perfect, or at least not awful. they went through it on the new york stock exchange again and again and again to make sure it went off without a hitch. clearly, theywanted to make sure the launch went smoothly, d it did. lessons for the white house? >> well, they should have known better. they should have tested the health care exchange website. >> well, they didn't. we're past that. >> and they had warnings in approximately saying there's a train wreck coming down

charles payne is here. this hour it is hedge funds versus s&p 500. like david and goliath.as favored as they once were. charles, what would they be doing? >> they're not living up to all the hype, masters of the universe. guys 2% and 20% of profits. by the way, don't question me. i remember a guy who starred hedge fund. one of the investors started limited. can only take a billion dollars. someone offered 750 million. it wasn't enough. only took a billion dollars. could only question him once a year doing with your money. you have got to be, beautiful gig if you can get it. >> better yet, how do they sucker people into investing with them? ashley: for a billion dollars you might -- >> for a while there was mystique about it. this year it might be going away. example, last month, hennessey, index. hedge funds overall were 1.4%. last month the s&p five was up -- s&p 4 1/2%. hedge fund are up less than 10%. you have to be kidding me! i will pay someone exorbitant amount of money, no say, no questions about the cash. get 2% no matter what to take care of the office and 20% of p

let's ask charles payne. charles: it is.ding at twice the price of the sales ratio, more than twice the price of both ratio, higher peg ratio and a bigger short position. they don't love krispy kreme, part of the reason remember the first go around when they went public comment was great but accounting problems and some in-house hijinks to be quite frank i don't think ever left the company. they missed the estimate two of the last three quarters, the stock took a dip. the growth has been phenomenal. last time sales up 10%, the net was up 15%, operating income, they got relatively no debt right now running really well, maybe they will buy back or not. franchise business doing extraordinarily well. i think it has come full circle, never had that sort of that it had before. it was like amazing, straight up. lori: i remember the debut. they were bringing investment boxes down. it was such an event. what is the story quickly with dunkin' donuts? why does everybody think they are overvalued? charles: they are. half the valuation,

half of that was from just charles payne. what do you think, charles? we need more money? >> thank you, charles. >> this thing, this great utopian country of fairness in the sky, costs a lot of money. it costs a lot of money. if we're going to take a u.s. congressman and subsidize his health care insurance because he a's 33-year-old man, it costs a lot of money. but here's the thing. it's an insatiable appetite. the more you feed the beast, the more the beast wants. that is ultimately killing this country. killing it. >> that has nothing to do with what i asked, but i'm afraid to counter what you just said. for you it's another issue. >> well, his point being that that's the last thing we need to do. >> spending? >> yeah. but i think, you know, i kind of agree with ben sometimes about the tax issue. the problem is, we do need higher taxes to pay for what we built. i agree that if we're going to keep what we built, we need to raise taxes. but the problem is, every time we raise taxes, it goes to big and bigger. we are not paying down the deficit. >> the money not the issue