been discussed, it seems that the parties agreed not to mention him at all in his eyes , the words pdc for ukraine or georgia, and this seems to me to be a very, very wrong signal for russia. well, in fact, this is quite an important moment as his which you emphasized because the question of ukraine's accession to nato was raised in such a way that it would be considered only after the end of the war, and it was said that the door to nato remains open to ukraine, although it seems that zelenskyi said that it is actually like the kyiv metro, is there a turnstile that is open when you approach, it closes and you have to pay a certain price so that it does not happen directly with ukraine, we will join ukraine in nato, but there is another side of the coin when directly ukrainian officials gave somewhat ambiguous signals as to whether ukraine wants to join nato or not , in particular, the same deputy head of the president's office, ihor zhovkva, seems to have been saying for some time that we do not aspire to join nato at all, because nato as an organization was not very effective at the