of view of nato, i would even be uh well, now it is indecent to return to the conversation about the pdcome long, endless processes, but nato must say our word that is, we have said our word, now we are waiting for the alliance to say how it sees this process among the western circles of politicians and the public, there are two approaches . winter is coming because of the war and so on, others say that it is necessary to support ukraine as long as necessary without imposing its peace and waiting for its victory and that you answer the first group, which is skeptical and already tired, so to speak. well, i tired of their skepticism, well look, these are all the groups that never believed in ukraine, that were advocates of these half-measures in relation to russia, that always said, well, let's go here, somehow all their policies failed with the first one, with the rocket that fell on kyiv on february 24, they really are. it's not maine. that is, it's not some kind of baseline, but some people in europe are starting to say no, maybe that's what they all need. hmm. we answer, we're already