core pdr should be. i think whether you zone it or not, it's going to be a challenge for pdh-type industries to continue in this area. ~ pdr-type industries to continue in this area. >> commissioners, if there's nothing further on this item, we can move on to general public comment. at this time members of the public may address the commission on items of interest to the public that are within the subject matter jurisdiction of the commission except agenda item. with respect to agenda items, your opportunity to address the commission will be afforded when the item is reached in the meeting. i don't have any speaker cards. >> is there any general public comment?

core pdr should be. i think whether you zone it or not, it's going to be a challenge for pdh-type industries to continue in this area. ~ pdr-type industries to continue in this area. >> commissioners, if there's nothing further on this item, we can move on to general public comment. at this time members of the public may address the commission on items of interest to the public that are within the subject matter jurisdiction of the commission except agenda item. with respect to agenda items, your opportunity to address the commission will be afforded when the item is reached in the meeting. i don't have any speaker cards. >> is there any general public comment? seeing none -- yes, please come forward. >>> good morning, board members. once again, i would like to submit further information that is c-e-q-a. i would like to be able to respond to some of the open areas they were talking about. and i really would like to respond to relevant -- this is the matter of planning and commission, and then, too, i wan

also, it wasn't mentioned yet, but i've mentioned it previously and that is the whole issue of pdr, sli and i think it's called the western soma sli and the zoning that exists to protect small businesses and commercial establishments and production and, you know, all of the thing that the city at one time thought were priority areas especially in the eastern neighborhoods plan. i know the language that's being used is that the eastern neighborhoods plan didn't really protect these particular blocks of pdr uses because it kind of kicked the decision off into the central corridor plan. and also in terms of the western soma plan, there's language there introduced, i don't know if we crafted it or staff did, about the eastern edge sort of being, you know, what it is now, but that also could be looked at in terms of zoning. now, in this plan, all of that disappears and is replaced by some kind of new zone called muo, which means pdr is gone. and i think that's an issue for land use that should be added to the list. and it seems like this plan is -- let me read this. it says evaluate the west

for years we've talked about pdr and industrial uses. i realize this is an area. some of the speakers have been residents for many years, this also has been an area that has mixed industrial and residential uses. this is a use that has been there for some time. admittedly this particular use is going to be cleaned up and a lot more in up the with the neighbors and where the other cases. one of the things we always deal with particularly to new residents an area that has a lot of industrial components. if they serve a good purpose, then we have to have an agreement that the residents will get along and the industrial uses will get along with the residents. that's the key here. i think it's a good location and as was pointed out by the speaker, it's in close proximity of the new internet companies and keeps businesses in san francisco. i'm in favor of it with the modification that are in the motion. >> commissioner wu? >> to the project sponsor and i ask the question. what was the timeline for the noise study and when will it be complete and is that the same as the

. >> it is something that we would see more in a commercial or a pdr district and that kind of catering kitchen and so we would not see that as a use that is consistent here. i don't see that there is a ceu process to allow it. >> okay. >> the use itself is not allowed. >> and in your research, was this a membership based or... usage when it first opened? >> so, what we have found was that it was and it seems that that has been used on a broader publicly accessible event scale and that is what our determination found. >> and i have a question. what, what is the significant of the permit, or the appellants, argument that there are other establishments that are zoned residential with the full commercial kitchens and then she sites, sun flower

. >> it is something that we would see more in a commercial or a pdr district and that kind of catering kitchen and so we would not see that as a use that is consistent here. i don't see that there is a ceu process to allow it. >> okay. >> the use itself is not allowed. >> and in your research, was this a membership based or... usage when it first opened? >> so, what we have found was that it was and it seems that that has been used on a broader publicly accessible event scale and that is what our determination found. >> and i have a question. what, what is the significant of the permit, or the appellants, argument that there are other establishments that are zoned residential with the full commercial kitchens and then she sites, sun flower and plow and imp low >> so these properties are not zoned residential they are located in an nc 2 neighborhood zoning district that will allow new restaurant and could convert to another retail store or to a new restaurant can open up but that is a commercial strip on 18th there. >> thank you. >> thank you. >> thanks. >> is there public comment on th

of industrial or manufacture, it has light and heavy, which is sort of what we have now in terms of pdr. and it has the basic things, residential, commercial, and i would think public is probably in there, maybe it isn't, but those would be the categories i could think of. i don't qui understand en we went to article 7 with neighborhood commercial districts. why couldn't they have been a subcategory of types of commercial district under article 2, which existed before, i guess? >> the way article 2 is structured, the use definitions are integrated into the chart. it's hard to explain without going through it, but it's divided up, even the industrial uses. it's not simply light industrial or heavy industrial. it lists every type of use and whether that use is permitted in the districts. a lot of it is redundant. so, i think the idea was to get rid of some of that redundancy and streamline it. and that's why -- i guess they could have found a way to do it, but it was moving far as and not looking back. it sound like a great idea to me. whatever you call it, 7 or 2 or whatever number you g

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