that because not enough not enough pdr space for the arts and not enough pdr space for the blue-collarorking community and by having such a demand for space and then you guys see what we passed in the election it is unconscionable and on behalf of all the artists working out of their kitchens not enough pdr spaces to be safe and live and sprinklers and fire codes compliance to say no let's more and more of those catastrophes will happen in the future not enough space i know you've got a recommendation to accept more exemption you have to reject it in again why we're another where we are and prop x is too important don't further weaken it. >> thank you. >> next speaker, please. >> hi my name is peter i'm the owner of the san francisco - on 14 and mission this is obviously prop which direction with the legislation in place no easy way to change for a small portion and use it for something else no place for pdr with the building operating a historic building is incredibly expensive and thirty years to this day has no heating system you understand why prop x no sprinklers and fire system a

none in the city understands pdr when i say manufacturing i'm proud my staff told me i have to wear a tie that is made mustards and designed in san francisco then you know what it's all about because as and go around telling people and johnny and so many others and kate and so many others why we're so proud of made in san francisco prostitutes we have to actually make them in san francisco someone can't put a label they'll be meeting with the patent lawyers we want things to be really made and designed 0 we want to bring to your attention when they have that label it is world renowned i have visitors from china tell me where to go to buy san francisco made products if they wouldn't return without them the quality in their hands and be able to buy and purchase whether caring erratics or wine or chocolates or ties they're proud to have that and we are proud as a city to more than protect they were not just protecting manufacturing space we're actually creating it creating it in ways in this they'll are part of the fabric the makers movement told us we're proud of label and the people

>> it would be pdr or arts or- >> even though there is no displacement of anything like that today? correct. >> that's a pretty ownerous requirement for a development that is currently vacant to require that it have some use other than what might be its best use. >> i understand that the meant also mint also has a museum plan through the california historic society which is within the current framework of the legislation. >> okay. commissioners, any comments? >> i just want to clarify for myself, so if someone doesn't agree to this amendment and doesn't want to convert 50 percent to pdr, is that allowed or is this saying under this designation that is the only way to go? >> no, it-if they don't want to change the current use they dont have to change it toophilus office or housing, but if they are interested in redwening the property for the purpose of something other than pdr, arts or non-profit use they have to preserve 50 percent of the space as such. >> if it is already pdr? >> or if that was their last allowable use, yes. >> okay. any other questions, commissioners? open up to p

a - >> if you were to pass from the legislation were to pass it would be exempt up to 50 percent of pdr space i don't know what the application is if it is larger than 50 percent no longer exempt from the cu requirement so it depends on how much they're proposing to have. >> if they were to limit town hall 49 thousand per our recommendation. >> they're exempt and which means they don't need a cu to convert. >> they don't my understanding but the office allocation so the 20 thousand. >> 25 thousand. >> 321. >> deputy city attorney mirena burns. diego is correct not needing a cu to comply with that section of the planning code that are proposed other triggers for a conditional use are the office allocation depends on the office use. >> if you're currently you have a building one and 50 thousand square feet of pdr under prop x the problem is we've not had a prop x project before us and not sure yet but if you're a project that has 50 thousand square feet of pdr currently and your demoing pdr space would apply if you're converting if you're demoing that 50 thought square feet of pdr is ther

space pdr space in this very conscious city for economic development isn't housing crisis has been the first type of space that has been cannibalized by development and with the mayor's office and with sfmade help we have been able to i think single-handedly pushed back r pushed back to protect pdr space to make sure that san francisco economy will thrive not everyone will afford a university or get a degree but were make sure we have jobs that are available for everyone at different education backgrounds to, sir can congratulations i know that - an incredible copy 50 years around and gap has been around anymore but i'm looking to getting a tour and if i see a belt or bracelet or something i'll put it on my tab no free rides just put it on my tabby want to talk a little bit about the advanced team this is a grew up of 25 sector businesses that got together to provide their insight on exactly what the industry needs to elevate and advance the industry and to begin to understand begin to understand how san francisco, california position itself to be a leader in this particular growing be

>> it would be pdr or arts or- >> even though there is no displacement of anything like that today? correct. >> that's a pretty ownerous requirement for a development that is currently vacant to require that it have some use other than what might be its best use. >> i understand that the meant also mint also has a museum plan through the california historic society which is within the current framework of the legislation. >> okay. commissioners, any comments? >> i just want to clarify for myself, so if someone doesn't agree to this amendment and doesn't want to convert 50 percent to pdr, is that allowed or is this saying under this designation that is the only way to go? >> no, it-if they don't want to change the current use they dont have to change it toophilus office or housing, but if they are interested in redwening the property for the purpose of something other than pdr, arts or non-profit use they have to preserve 50 percent of the space as such. >> if it is already pdr? >> or if that was their last allowable use, yes. >> okay. any other questions, commissioners? open up to p

. >> there's been intern controls introduced around an intern moratorium around greg cannabis in pdr space because there's is some concern about the amount of pdr space that is held off the market in anticipation for this industry and that is now not moving forward fast because of the concerns of the cannabis growers that is being discussed we are also seeing that some department of human services making sure the medical marijuana is conditional use those are those right now, we're having individuals coming into the assistance center asking questions how to navigate the fact that proposition 64 has passed can be they do currently the only thing is the legal structure open a medical cannabis dispensaries that's the only licensed structure we have in place right now so but we will be you know minica and i are working closely with the task force and with the business communities to figure out what we need to do moving forward. >> incidentally a lot of talk ultimately growing activities inside the city's expensive like ourselves not if you running an urban winery you don't grow your grap

none in the city understands pdr when i say manufacturing i'm proud my staff told me i have to wear a tie that is made mustards and designed in san francisco then you know what it's all about because as and go around telling people and johnny and so many others and kate and so many others why we're so proud of made in san francisco prostitutes we have to actually make them in san francisco someone can't put a label they'll be meeting with the patent lawyers we want things to be really made and designed 0 we want to bring to your attention when they have that label it is world renowned i have visitors from china tell me where to go to buy san francisco made products if they wouldn't return without them the quality in their hands and be able to buy and purchase whether caring erratics or wine or chocolates or ties they're proud to have that and we are proud as a city to more than protect they were not just protecting manufacturing space we're actually creating it creating it in ways in this they'll are part of the fabric the makers movement told us we're proud of label and the people

building that means in the eastern neighborhoods subject to one more one replacement of the pdr next point that it says it is exempt from ceqa review because that falls under the eastern neighborhoods eir plan sorry planted planted eir if so it eligible for the state density bonus program provides 25 percent more units zoned for in sight is clearly needs to go through ceqa review if you go through a zoning to change the height and bulk for this you'll have to go to a ceqa review in the compatible and not fall under the eastern neighborhoods planned area eir so underscore that and if this project is passed as is and state density bonus program is a tool to use what other projects are coming and how is this going to change the nature of the eastern neighborhoods that all in terms of its key impact needs to be studied not look at this as a one of this project raises too many policy issues not just a project the fact that is a side stepping the 25 percent in the continued legislation of prop c it is side stepping the pdr replacement if proposition x and the fact it is exclaiming it is ex

. >> there's been intern controls introduced around an intern moratorium around greg cannabis in pdrpace because there's is some concern about the amount of pdr space that is held off the market in anticipation for this industry and that is now not moving forward fast because of the concerns of the cannabis growers that is being discussed we are also seeing that some department of human services making sure the medical marijuana is conditional use those are those right now, we're having individuals coming into the assistance center asking questions how to navigate the fact that proposition 64 has passed can be they do currently the only thing is the legal structure open a medical cannabis dispensaries that's the only licensed structure we have in place right now so but we will be you know minica and i are working closely with the task force and with the business communities to figure out what we need to do moving forward. >> incidentally a lot of talk ultimately growing activities inside the city's expensive like ourselves not if you running an urban winery you don't grow your grapes

. >> there's been intern controls introduced around an intern moratorium around greg cannabis in pdrpace because there's is some concern about the amount of pdr space that is held off the market in anticipation for this industry and that is now not moving forward fast because of the concerns of the cannabis growers that is being discussed we are also seeing that some department of human services making sure the medical marijuana is conditional use those are those right now, we're having individuals coming into the assistance center asking questions how to navigate the fact that proposition 64 has passed can be they do currently the only thing is the legal structure open a medical cannabis dispensaries that's the only licensed structure we have in place right now so but we will be you know minica and i are working closely with the task force and with the business communities to figure out what we need to do moving forward. >> incidentally a lot of talk ultimately growing activities inside the city's expensive like ourselves not if you running an urban winery you don't grow your grapes

. >> reason why we had issues of pdr space that's the kind of space they want to be in does it manuals for 15 foot ceilings i'm wondering if there are trends we should look to inform what types of land use patterns we should be accommodating. >> we're interested as well and making this a useful as possible document so one place maybe look at lacking on you know on the neighborhood commercial corridors i know you do a lot of our work and looking at the actual permits and projects approved and bhaetsdz happening on the ground this is higher-up but that might one we welcome any suggestions that you might have. >> we have people sorry so you have tables in here that show uses by land use uses table; right? it be might be useful to add size size is of the actual uses let me pull it up i was looking at that yesterday that is a perfect use of data to use man here we go. >> so, yes so you have like i won't talk about the page but tables say distribution of types of uses by districts so you'll have service center and pdr and distribution by land use characters so a number of establishments so i

. >> reason why we had issues of pdr space that's the kind of space they want to be in does it manuals for 15 foot ceilings i'm wondering if there are trends we should look to inform what types of land use patterns we should be accommodating. >> we're interested as well and making this a useful as possible document so one place maybe look at lacking on you know on the neighborhood commercial corridors i know you do a lot of our work and looking at the actual permits and projects approved and bhaetsdz happening on the ground this is higher-up but that might one we welcome any suggestions that you might have. >> we have people sorry so you have tables in here that show uses by land use uses table; right? it be might be useful to add size size is of the actual uses let me pull it up i was looking at that yesterday that is a perfect use of data to use man here we go. >> so, yes so you have like i won't talk about the page but tables say distribution of types of uses by districts so you'll have service center and pdr and distribution by land use characters so a number of establishments so i

the clinton administration had worked very hard on that by having permanent pdr pdr, really because whateverwe were doing the renewal of the mfn was basically pull it up the plan to see if it was growing. and a great source of irritation. irritation. so the first step was to do it and bring them into a normal system. and then ringing them into the debbie tl was part of really this idea of putting it into the international system. one, we thought it was fair. and two, frankly, it made it possible for some of the rules of trade to be in force internationally. not just in a bilateral way. so i think it's all part of the same story of trying to make sure that china was respected and was a part of a functioning international system. and that i think certainly was the view that president carter had, president clinton had, president obama has had. and i think it is something that we have to consider, that they are the number two economy and they need to be part of a functioning international system. >> did it work? did china's secession to the wto work for america? >> i think mostly, though there a

its own every single development in the pipeline actually is requiring an eir as far as the loss of pdrpace i have this where are the plumps that will build this project get their plumbing project if mcmillan plumbing is moved to san mateo thank you. >> (clapping.) >> are any other members of the public in support of appellant please step up otherwise mr. chair. >> if not go to the city departments on behalf of the planning department. >> ms. gibson. >> good afternoon supervisor peskin, supervisor president london breed and members of the board i'm listing ca is a acting environmental officer the question whether the project anothers 115 south van ness avenue kwflgz for a plan expectation in corneas with the california environmental quality act and the ceqa guidelines i'll be making a few opening remarks before i i'm going to turn it over to linda who prepares the subject of the appeal i'll describe the project and highlighted two oishlgz raise in the appeal that ever rays on recent ceqa appeals before the board the project sight is three-quarters of an acre 33 square feet building that

sdefrmz for the conditional use authorization for indoor ashen uses and at agricultural uses in the pdr zoning and making appropriate findings. >> leakage we have a request for a continuance from the mayor's office i believe we have a representative from the mayor's office of economic workforce development who can to this. >> hi from the office of economic workforce development thank you, supervisor for hearing us today with the controls designed to allow us to begin a thoughtful process around the ashen in the land use here in the city with that said we were aware from concerns i want to have a continuance for the january 9th we've got a long way to go e meetings we'll come back with a thoughtful process. >> thank you very much for the update let's take public comment anyone want to have public comment seeing none, public comment is closed. thank you mr. peskin can we agree to have this on january 9th. >> so moved. >> without objection that be that motion carries all right. call item 3 please. item 3 an ordinance amending the planning code for the project sponsors to direct the afforda

sdefrmz for the conditional use authorization for indoor ashen uses and at agricultural uses in the pdr zoning and making appropriate findings. >> leakage we have a request for a continuance from the mayor's office i believe we have a representative from the mayor's office of economic workforce development who can to this. >> hi from the office of economic workforce development thank you, supervisor for hearing us today with the controls designed to allow us to begin a thoughtful process around the ashen in the land use here in the city with that said we were aware from concerns i want to have a continuance for the january 9th we've got a long way to go e meetings we'll come back with a thoughtful process. >> thank you very much for the update let's take public comment anyone want to have public comment seeing none, public comment is closed. thank you mr. peskin can we agree to have this on january 9th. >> so moved. >> without objection that be that motion carries all right. call item 3 please. item 3 an ordinance amending the planning code for the project sponsors to direct the afforda

sdefrmz for the conditional use authorization for indoor ashen uses and at agricultural uses in the pdroning and making appropriate findings. >> leakage we have a request for a continuance from the mayor's office i believe we have a representative from the mayor's office of economic workforce development who can to this. >> hi from the office of economic workforce development thank you, supervisor for hearing us today with the controls designed to allow us to begin a thoughtful process around the ashen in the land use here in the city with that said we were aware from concerns i want to have a continuance for the january 9th we've got a long way to go e meetings we'll come back with a thoughtful process. >> thank you very much for the update let's take public comment anyone want to have public comment seeing none, public comment is closed. thank you mr. peskin can we agree to have this on january 9th. >> so moved. >> without objection that be that motion carries all right. call item 3 please. item 3 an ordinance amending the planning code for the project sponsors to direct the affordabl

sdefrmz for the conditional use authorization for indoor ashen uses and at agricultural uses in the pdr zoning and making appropriate findings. >> leakage we have a request for a continuance from the mayor's office i believe we have a representative from the mayor's office of economic workforce development who can to this. >> hi from the office of economic workforce development thank you, supervisor for hearing us today with the controls designed to allow us to begin a thoughtful process around the ashen in the land use here in the city with that said we were aware from concerns i want to have a continuance for the january 9th we've got a long way to go e meetings we'll come back with a thoughtful process. >> thank you very much for the update let's take public comment anyone want to have public comment seeing none, public comment is closed. thank you mr. peskin can we agree to have this on january 9th. >> so moved. >> without objection that be that motion carries all right. call item 3 please. item 3 an ordinance amending the planning code for the project sponsors to direct the afforda

sdefrmz for the conditional use authorization for indoor ashen uses and at agricultural uses in the pdr zoning and making appropriate findings. >> leakage we have a request for a continuance from the mayor's office i believe we have a representative from the mayor's office of economic workforce development who can to this. >> hi from the office of economic workforce development thank you, supervisor for hearing us today with the controls designed to allow us to begin a thoughtful process around the ashen in the land use here in the city with that said we were aware from concerns i want to have a continuance for the january 9th we've got a long way to go e meetings we'll come back with a thoughtful process. >> thank you very much for the update let's take public comment anyone want to have public comment seeing none, public comment is closed. thank you mr. peskin can we agree to have this on january 9th. >> so moved. >> without objection that be that motion carries all right. call item 3 please. item 3 an ordinance amending the planning code for the project sponsors to direct the afforda

space pdr space in this very conscious city for economic development isn't housing crisis has been the first type of space that has been cannibalized by development and with the mayor's office and with sfmade help we have been able to i think single-handedly pushed back r pushed back to protect pdr space to make sure that san francisco economy will thrive not everyone will afford a university or get a degree but were make sure we have jobs that are available for everyone at different education backgrounds to, sir can congratulations i know that - an incredible copy 50 years around and gap has been around anymore but i'm looking to getting a tour and if i see a belt or bracelet or something i'll put it on my tab no free rides just put it on my tabby want to talk a little bit about the advanced team this is a grew up of 25 sector businesses that got together to provide their insight on exactly what the industry needs to elevate and advance the industry and to begin to understand begin to understand how san francisco, california position itself to be a leader in this particular growing be

department of real estate but i don't feel comfortable by the way, they were listing of the properties pdrs properties in the southeast corner of the city like i said a listing is not a sale make and compatible sales don't an appraisal make i understand the urgent needs to acquire at this time, the real estate and the city merchants office and the public works knew they were buying a piece of property to a lease that can be extended i'm remarkably disappointed we're you here a year later this has not been resolved the lease was stechld to a value of $200,000 now looks like a $1.2 million cost to the puc and i just have to express this is not okay. if this was in the private sector and somebody estimated $200,000 and came in 6 times that much i mean not good enough for government and the private sector i have to express someone needs to say it how disappointed i am that million two should have been a deduction from the purchase price we should have bought that property for 3 housing unit 8 or whatever but be compatible sales that shows a square foot value that maybe higher than the condemnat